Re: TransPacific Partnership

2016-01-05 Thread tglas...@earthlink.net
I wouldn't worry about it every byte if the surveillance data is tied to the patent fraud around Us6370629 imho. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "Tom Berryman" Cc: Subject: TransPacific Partnership Date: Sun, Jan 3, 2016 16:07 My understanding was if it all

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Mansoor Nathani
Aren't IBM and Softlayer one and the same these days? On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > I bet if more people moved to clouds that have IPv6 support such as: > > Host Virtualvr.org > Softlayer softlayer.com >

Re: [NANOG] IPv4 subnets for lease?

2016-01-05 Thread Javier J
Is there anyone who leases to companies in the US? On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Fredrik Widell wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Nick Ellermann wrote: > > > Hi. > > We lease /24's or more to customers since many years, but as someone later > in the thread commented, > spammers will use this oppo

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > I bet if more people moved to clouds that have IPv6 support such as: > > Host Virtualvr.org > Softlayer softlayer.com > Linode linode.com > >

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Owen DeLong
Yes and no… Yes, IBM bot Softlayer. No, IBM datacenters that predate Softlayer still can’t spell IPv6. Softlayer datacenters all had IPv6 before IBM got to them. Owen > On Jan 5, 2016, at 14:53 , Mansoor Nathani wrote: > > Aren't IBM and Softlayer one and the same these days? > > On Tue, Jan

GPON vs. GEPON

2016-01-05 Thread nanog-isp
Hello all, For those of you with optical last mile networks that are familiar with both GPON and GEPON, would you mind sharing experiences of the differences between GPON and GEPON, especially from an operative perspective? For arguments sake let's assume bitrate, split ratio, cross vendor com

Possible Level3 Latency and Packet Loss

2016-01-05 Thread Eric Rogers
I have several customers that have contacted us about VoIP quality, and I have moved BGP away from Level3, and even through Cogent and/or HE to try and bypass but it still goes back into Level3's network. Is there any way I can get an engineer from Level3 to contact me to help troubleshoot this

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Owen DeLong
I bet if more people moved to clouds that have IPv6 support such as: Host Virtualvr.org Softlayer softlayer.com Linode linode.com Places like Amazon and Google and IBM would get the message fa

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread George, Wes
On 1/4/16, 11:54 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Neil Harris" wrote: >I can only imagine the scale of the schadenfreude IPv6 proponents will >be able to feel once they're able to start talking about IPv4 as a >legacy protocol. *start*? https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3pb/sets/72157634324914351/ :-)

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread James Hartig
I would hope that Google would first fix the fact that "Compute Engine networks do not support IPv6 at all."[1] before doing anything with SEO. [1] https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/networking -- James Hartig

RE: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Steve Mikulasik
They don't need to actually implement it, just say IPv6 increases ranking. SEO is mostly BS anyways, I doubt anyone would notice. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Baldur Norddahl Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 4:33 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subjec

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Owen DeLong wrote: Good that one of them is finally backing down on the previous stupidity, but for a variety of reasons, I wish it had been T-mo. Why? IPv6 only with IPv4 transported over it is clearly the way to go for the future, it makes more sense to have Apple suppor

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 00:09 , Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016, Jared Mauch wrote: > >> I for one welcome the iOS update that brings v6 APN native access to my >> phone, or at least v4v6 APN setting. > > That's not how it's done on Apple, they (together with the operator) contr

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 20:27 , George Metz wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > >> the more interesting question to me is: what can we, ops and ietf, do >> to make it operationally and financially easier for providers and >> enterprises to go to ipv6 instead of ipv4 nat

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Bruce Curtis
This page is fun to play with. The 3rd order polynomial currently results in the most optimistic projection and 700 days in the future is enough for a good view of the results. The page is for the US. https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/project.php?metric=q&country=us > On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-05 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 4 Jan 2016, Jared Mauch wrote: I for one welcome the iOS update that brings v6 APN native access to my phone, or at least v4v6 APN setting. That's not how it's done on Apple, they (together with the operator) control the APN settings. There are several mobile networks that run IPv4v