Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 10 January 2016 at 20:12, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> On Jan 9, 2016, at 08:01 , Jeremy Austin wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:06 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>> >>> The best solution for everybody is the solution most consumers are

RE: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Shon Elliott
I also am interested in where people are finding blocks of /22 or smaller just in case. We have some blocks from Level 3, but eventually, we're going to be out. That being said, we did get our IPv6 /32 allocation from ARIN. If anyone has any ideas on how to properly deploy this in an ISP

Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

2016-01-11 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Mon 2016-Jan-11 20:16:21 +, Shon Elliott wrote: I also am interested in where people are finding blocks of /22 or smaller just in case. We have some blocks from Level 3, but eventually, we're going to be out. That being said, we did get our IPv6 /32

RE: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

2016-01-11 Thread Shon Elliott
Hi Hugo, Thanks for the response to the IPv6 part of my e-mail. Unfortunately, I don't think our company will send anyone to London for training. I would hope that there would be something in the United States that would be available. I know the IPv6 basics, just not real plan on deploying it

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Owen DeLong
About $10/address seems to be the going rate, so why do you say you paid too much? Owen > On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:01 , Christopher Dye wrote: > > I just paid way too much from Hilco Streambank on Auction. I think I ended up > spending about $2500 + ARIN fees (but I

Re: RE: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

2016-01-11 Thread Hugo Slabbert
Apologies; I had looked at some of the NCC's online material and got stuck in the "it's all online these days, right?" bubble... Excuse the noise... -- Hugo h...@slabnet.com: email, xmpp/jabber also on Signal From: Shon Elliott -- Sent: 2016-01-11 - 16:34

Re: IPv6 Implementation and CPE Behavior

2016-01-11 Thread James R Cutler
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:23 , James R Cutler >> wrote: >> >>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Graham Johnston >>> wrote: >>> >>> Are most CPE devices generally not

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Brough Turner
Note that ARIN has a list of "Registered Transfer Facilitators" at: https://www.arin.net/resources/transfer_listing/facilitator_list.html I've just started look into buying a /20. So far, Hilco Streambank auction prices seemed better than the two other facilitators I have communicated with.

Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]

2016-01-11 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 16:21 , Hugo Slabbert wrote: > > On Mon 2016-Jan-11 20:16:21 +, Shon Elliott > wrote: > >> I also am interested in where people are finding blocks of /22 or smaller >> just in case. We have some blocks from Level 3, but

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I spent about five minutes looking for that list earlier today and couldn't find it. Thanks, Brough. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Brough Turner"

Re: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
Was this intended for the list? It's a bit confusing. On Jan 10, 2016 9:58 PM, "Andrew Kirch" wrote: > I have an idea. Indianapolis Cybercrime should stop playing politics and > treat people like me who are willing to help, and were hugely successful > with respect, and not

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Tony Finch
Alan Buxey wrote: > > Bulk data and background update processes are things that could possibly > by throttled - after all, that's pretty much what QoS does. Most of my > phone data is google play software updates and on woes phone ios and > itunes store updates - it

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Doug Barton
T-Mobile CEO Apologizes For “Offending” EFF And Its Supporters After an aggressive response to his company, T-Mobile, being called out for being anti-Net Neutrality on its new “Binge On” product by the EFF, CEO John Legere has backtracked a bit. In case you missed it, he flippantly asked “Who

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Rafael Possamai
If you apply for an IPv6 block, as an ISP, and you have the intention of truly utilizing it, then you can apply for a /24 to facilitate that transition. It will cost you about $1500 or so, which is about half of what a /24 is going for in the transfer market. Thing is, if you take the IPv6 block

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Martin Hannigan
If you aren't advised to at least analyze the potential to avoid buying and using v6, you'd be getting bad advice. With that said: For large blocks, >/16, you're going to want to work with a *reputable* broker that understands how the market works. The two I am consistent in pointing to are

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Rafael Possamai
Makes sense. In that case, I think only way out is to go through a broker to find a suitable party for a transfer. I would read the rules and regulations regarding transfer of ARIN blocks, they have some details and the process requires some paperwork. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Matthew D.

RE: SMS gateways

2016-01-11 Thread frnkblk
I plan to continue living in a rural area with a GSM provider that will support 2G. =) Frank -Original Message- From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com] Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Cc: frnk...@iname.com Subject: Re: SMS gateways In article

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Matthew D. Hardeman
I’m aware of the /24 block for facilitation concept, but my client’s use case can qualify as an end-user rather than as an ISP, thus their annual operating cost is smaller than even the X-SMALL ISP category, which they’d land in — if they opted for the smaller /36 initial IPv6 direct

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Jeremy Austin
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Some expansions under my ISP hat may lead to needing some address space, > so I'd be interested in where people are getting space from as well. > Smaller blocks, though, /22 and smaller. > Me too, but "will" instead of

Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

2016-01-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:25:17 +, Marc Storck said: > I'm looking for a Yahoo email administrator who could contact me offlist. > Error: "421 4.7.1 [TS03] All messages from x.x.x.x permanently deferred" If you find one, tell them to go look up the difference between 4xx and 5xx return codes.

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

2016-01-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/Jan/16 08:45, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > There's a reason Google did 16 way splits, and yes, we have two paths we > are looking at for NG-PON2. One with Calix, another with another vendor. At previous job, we did 24x splits to guarantee 100Mbps to each home; up to 50Mbps for Internet

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-11 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Vint, > Op 11 jan. 2016, om 12:47 heeft Vint Cerf het volgende > geschreven: > > since google is a major implementor of IPv6, some people might claim this is > an attempt to artificially inflate scores for Google sites. Sigh. Sigh indeed. On the other hand: IPv6 is

Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

2016-01-11 Thread Marc Storck
Hello, I’m looking for a Yahoo email administrator who could contact me offlist. I have a customer with a clean record that is getting thsi error: Error: "421 4.7.1 [TS03] All messages from x.x.x.x permanently deferred" when sending email to Yahoo The customer is a local non-profit and sends

Re: Another Big day for IPv6 - 10% native penetration

2016-01-11 Thread Sander Steffann
> Op 11 jan. 2016, om 15:05 heeft Vint Cerf het volgende > geschreven: > > sounds like the Federal Reserve testing the waters with hints of increasing > discount rate... :) signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

[TECH] PPPoE server on ASR 920

2016-01-11 Thread Nicolas Even
Hi. I need some help. I hope some of you are able to help me :) I configured a pppoe server on a brand new asr 920 plateform (advanced metro ip access) but it's not working. My set up is trivial : 1/ Add a bba-group and a virtual template : bba-group pppoe BBAPPPOE virtual-template 1

IPv6 Implementation and CPE Behavior

2016-01-11 Thread Graham Johnston
Hi nanog, We are little behind in our IPv6 rollout are pushing to make big strides by the end of Q2. We have all of our core network and primary infrastructure dual-stack enabled at this point and our next step will be to move to dual-stack on our CMTSs. For those retail operators that have

Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

2016-01-11 Thread Elizabeth Zwicky via NANOG
http://postmaster.yahoo.com, click on "Contact Us" at the top since your question isn't one of the giant ones in the middle of the page. Elizabeth Zwicky On Monday, January 11, 2016 4:28 AM, Marc Storck wrote: Hello, I’m looking for a Yahoo email administrator

Re: Nat

2016-01-11 Thread Lee Howard
On 1/7/16, 7:39 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Doug Barton" wrote: >On 12/18/2015 01:20 PM, Lee Howard wrote: >> >> >> On 12/17/15, 1:59 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Matthew Petach" > >>> I'm still waiting for the IETF to come around >>> to

Re: IPv6 Implementation and CPE Behavior

2016-01-11 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, Are most CPE devices generally not IPv6 capable in the first place? For those that are capable are they usually still configured with IPv6 disabled, requiring the customer to enable it? For those CPE that are capable and enabled, is there a common configuration such as full blown

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Jeremy Austin
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > For $x/month you get Y GB of LTE speed data and after that you drop to > 128kbps. > > You don’t pay an overage charge, but your data slows way down. > > If you want to make it fast again, you can for $reasonable purchase >

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:00 , Jeremy Austin wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: > > For $x/month you get Y GB of LTE speed data and after that you drop to > 128kbps. > > You don’t pay an

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Jeremy Austin
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > >> >> > This is similar to Hughesnet's FAP (unfortunately named Fair Access > Policy). > > I've had some consumer success with this model. There are other fairness > models that can augment it, however; it's not my

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Jeremy Austin
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > > > My favorite is actually having enough bandwidth to meet demand. What a > concept. Ought to work for terrestrial; where we run out of > spectrum/bandwidth is in shared-medium last-mile. > > > That’s not a billing model…

Re: IPv6 Implementation and CPE Behavior

2016-01-11 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:23 , James R Cutler > wrote: > >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Graham Johnston >> wrote: >> >> Are most CPE devices generally not IPv6 capable in the first place? For >> those that are capable are they

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:31 , Jeremy Austin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Owen DeLong > wrote: > >> >> >> >> This is similar to Hughesnet's FAP (unfortunately named Fair Access Policy). >> >> I've had some

Re: IPv6 Implementation and CPE Behavior

2016-01-11 Thread James R Cutler
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Graham Johnston > wrote: > > Are most CPE devices generally not IPv6 capable in the first place? For > those that are capable are they usually still configured with IPv6 disabled, > requiring the customer to enable it? For those CPE

Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Matthew D. Hardeman
I’m looking to buy a /24 of space for a new multi-homed network in the ARIN region. Can anyone out there speak to going rates for a /24 and best places to shop? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

RE: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Ray Orsini
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Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

2016-01-11 Thread Bjørn Mork
Elizabeth Zwicky via NANOG writes: > "permanently deferred" Does not compute :) Bjørn

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Matthew D. Hardeman
So far, some of the off-list responses that I’ve seen from my inquiry are beating out the pricing that shows on Hilco Streambank’s site. > On Jan 11, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Christopher Dye wrote: > > I just paid way too much from Hilco Streambank on Auction. I think I ended

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-11 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:07 , Jeremy Austin wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Owen DeLong > wrote: > >> >> >> My favorite is actually having enough bandwidth to meet demand. What a >> concept. Ought to work for

RE: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Christopher Dye
I just paid way too much from Hilco Streambank on Auction. I think I ended up spending about $2500 + ARIN fees (but I really needed it). www.ipv4auctions.com Christopher Dye Chief Technology Officer Paragon Solutions Group, Inc. -Original Message- From: NANOG

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Some expansions under my ISP hat may lead to needing some address space, so I'd be interested in where people are getting space from as well. Smaller blocks, though, /22 and smaller. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange