Re: About inetnum "ownership"

2016-03-01 Thread Jonas Bjork
Hi, shouldn't the same logic of ownership of DNS domain names apply to inetnum address space? Best regards, Jonas Sent from my iPad > On 02 Mar 2016, at 07:12, Karl Auer wrote: > >> On Wed, 2016-03-02 at 00:44 -0500, William Herrin wrote: >> Do I have the legal right to exclude others from an

Re: Any large IPv4 space brokers?

2016-03-01 Thread Jonas Bjork
Hi, these sites sell PA network space, I assume? Where may I buy PI nets? Best regards, Jonas Sent from my iPad > On 02 Mar 2016, at 01:54, Jim Mercer wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 05:32:44PM -0500, Paras Jha wrote: >> Does anyone know of any IP space brokers other than Hilco Streambank?

Re: About inetnum "ownership"

2016-03-01 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2016-03-02 at 00:44 -0500, William Herrin wrote: > Do I have the legal right to exclude others from announcing my block > of IP addresses to the public Internet routing tables? It's not well > tested in court but the odds are exceptionally strong that I do. If I own some property - say a f

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/Mar/16 08:04, Mark Tinka wrote: > We were initially looking at at the Nexus 9000, but then moved to the > 7700 because the Broadcom chip on the 7700 cannot do single flows larger > than 40Gbps on the 100Gbps ports. The Broadcom chip on the 9000, I meant... Mark.

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/Mar/16 17:18, Peter Phaal wrote: > It also appears that Cisco's merchant silicon based switches have a > greater variety of orchestration capabilities, Python, NX-API, > Ansible, etc. We were initially looking at at the Nexus 9000, but then moved to the 7700 because the Broadcom chip on th

Re: About inetnum "ownership"

2016-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > Unique registrations in the RIR databases may well be property. Hi Owen, Registration records property. Registrations are not the property recorded. The U.S. Supreme Court talks about property this way: "The right to exclude others [is] one o

Re: AWS Direct Connect - Peering VPCs to Tier 1's and MPLS

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
If anyone has connections at Amazon in those areas, could you pass them my way? My IP peering contact (MMC) seems to have fallen off the face of the earth and I'm not sure that's his jurisdiction anyway. Their web site seems largely useless so far, catering more to the consultant and software de

Re: AWS Direct Connect - Peering VPCs to Tier 1's and MPLS

2016-03-01 Thread Dave Cohen
I can confirm that AWS (and Equinix, by extension, from a facility operator perspective) permit carriers to have multiple end users share a physical interface into the AWS gateway. The key is whether the providers that are permitted into the DX environment (I believe AWS has limited the list to onl

Re: AWS Direct Connect - Peering VPCs to Tier 1's and MPLS

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I haven't heard it from the horse's mouth, but I heard that the only way to have customers share an AWS DX (apparently) cross connect is through Equinix's cloud exchange service. Can anyone confirm that? It doesn't seem right that I could transport people to AWS all day long if they buy their ow

Re: Any large IPv4 space brokers?

2016-03-01 Thread Jim Mercer
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 05:32:44PM -0500, Paras Jha wrote: > Does anyone know of any IP space brokers other than Hilco Streambank? I'm > looking to get a feel for the market a little bit. register with the ARIN STLS, there are some blocks available there too. --jim -- Jim Mercer Reptilian R

Re: Any large IPv4 space brokers?

2016-03-01 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016, Paras Jha wrote: Does anyone know of any IP space brokers other than Hilco Streambank? I'm looking to get a feel for the market a little bit. Addrex.net -- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route

Re: About inetnum "ownership"

2016-03-01 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 08:57 , William Herrin wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:03 AM, Jérôme Nicolle wrote: >> It's my understanding that the IP adress space is nothing but numbers >> and that RIR/LIRs are only responsible for the uniqueness of allocations >> and assignements, that is, a tra

Re: About inetnum "ownership"

2016-03-01 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 08:50 , Naslund, Steve wrote: > > Oh, and I forgot to add...the number in and of itself does not have a value. > The right to use that number within the Internet connected network is what > has value. But that’s not what RIRs give you. RIRs have no control over your r

Re: mrtg alternative

2016-03-01 Thread Jeff Gehlbach
Similar in name but more comprehensive in scope, OpenNMS may also be worth a look. Disclosure: I work for the project's primary maintainer. On March 1, 2016 5:50:07 PM EST, Alessandro Martins wrote: >Hey, > >LibreNMS is an opensource Observium's fork with some extra addons... > >Take a look: ht

Re: mrtg alternative

2016-03-01 Thread Alessandro Martins
Hey, LibreNMS is an opensource Observium's fork with some extra addons... Take a look: http://www.librenms.org -- Alessandro Martins On Feb 27, 2016 20:37, "Peter Loron" wrote: > We’re using Observium for trend collecting, graphing, and alerting. > > -Pete > > > > > On 2/27/16, 13:12, "NANOG

Any large IPv4 space brokers?

2016-03-01 Thread Paras Jha
Does anyone know of any IP space brokers other than Hilco Streambank? I'm looking to get a feel for the market a little bit. Regards Paras

Re: Thank you, Comcast. (aka patch your D-Link gear)

2016-03-01 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jason_living...@comcast.com wrote: As noted last week we're ... Thank you for sharing this and all the other stuff over the years with the NANOG community. scott

Re: AWS Direct Connect - Peering VPCs to Tier 1's and MPLS

2016-03-01 Thread Michael O'Connor
Jay, VPC is supported over IPsec if your public path is sufficient into the AWS cloud. AWS shortens DirectConnect to DX not DC for some reason. The AWS DirectConnect service is built on 10G infrastructure so using potentially larger interconnects over public peerings with IPsec could be advantag

Re: AWS Direct Connect - Peering VPCs to Tier 1's and MPLS

2016-03-01 Thread Luan Nguyen
Not sure about AWS, but if you are a client of Dimension Data cloud, you don't need to do anything. Everything will be taking care off from the provider perspective. Didata will peer with your tier 1/MPLS - acts as CPE...etc I am pretty sure AWS does that for you as well. Else you could spin up a

Re: Thank you, Comcast. (aka patch your D-Link gear)

2016-03-01 Thread Livingood, Jason
As a followup to this issue, and looking specifically at SSDP abuse (not the DNS amplification noted in the 1st email), one point of commonality we have identified in many customers is a D-Link device (range of different models). If you or someone you know uses a D-Link device, please see this p

Re: AWS Direct Connect - Peering VPCs to Tier 1's and MPLS

2016-03-01 Thread George Herbert
If you're asking if one can get a provider's router to handle the outside physical part of a DC connection... As an ISP service so you don't need your own router hardware... I was working on this for a recent ex client and asked Level 3 exactly that question. I believe I had the right network

AWS Direct Connect - Peering VPCs to Tier 1's and MPLS

2016-03-01 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
Just got this dropped on my desk an hour ago, and I'm not finding as much material online as I might have hoped for... It looks like the easiest solution is to just hang a router/firewall at Equinix Ashburn and AWS-DC to that, and then peer it to carriers both IP and MPLS; is there a "native" way

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Phaal
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:13 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 29/Feb/16 12:15, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > >> Cisco Nexus switches support sflow, since they are broadcom based. > > Not all of them, just the Nexus 9000, IIRC. > The situation in the Cisco Nexus line is confusing. In addition, to the Nexus

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Nikolay Shopik
On 01/03/16 10:44, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > But unfortunately they (Cisco Nexus) are pretty expensive and fairly > new for DC and ISP market. It's pretty rare to find big company with > switching backbone on Nexus switches. You could go with withbox switches, which is based on same broadcom ASIC, b

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Nikolay Shopik
On 01/03/16 17:13, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 29/Feb/16 12:15, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > >> Cisco Nexus switches support sflow, since they are broadcom based. > > Not all of them, just the Nexus 9000, IIRC. > Nexus 3000 also broadcom, but maybe not all models.

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
Brocade as well. On Mar 1, 2016 8:39 AM, "David Bass" wrote: > I don't agree with that statement (about rare to find big companies using > Nexus). If you want 10 gig/40 gig (or 100 gig soon) your options are Cisco > Nexus/Arista/Juniper QFX...some periphery devices as well, but the majority > us

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Yep, actually do not mean. I've never used Nexus and haven't any experience with it :) I mentioned this in original message. I'm pretty sure it's awesome switch. But as I haven't any experience I do not known cons and pros about it. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 1/Mar

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/Mar/16 16:33, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > As opposed to older Cisco switches. Well, every vendor has older switches. > Btw, 100GE is pretty new and > actually I have experience only with Extreme Black Diamond 8. Does not mean the Nexus is a bad choice for high capacity core switching. Just

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread David Bass
I don't agree with that statement (about rare to find big companies using Nexus). If you want 10 gig/40 gig (or 100 gig soon) your options are Cisco Nexus/Arista/Juniper QFX...some periphery devices as well, but the majority use one of those 3. The merchant silicon based switches are pretty r

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Pavel Odintsov
As opposed to older Cisco switches. Btw, 100GE is pretty new and actually I have experience only with Extreme Black Diamond 8. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 1/Mar/16 09:44, Pavel Odintsov wrote: >> But unfortunately they (Cisco Nexus) are pretty expensive and fairly >

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/Mar/16 09:44, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > But unfortunately they (Cisco Nexus) are pretty expensive and fairly > new for DC and ISP market. It's pretty rare to find big company with > switching backbone on Nexus switches. As opposed to? We are looking at the Nexus 7700 for 100Gbps core switchi

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 29/Feb/16 12:15, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > Cisco Nexus switches support sflow, since they are broadcom based. Not all of them, just the Nexus 9000, IIRC. Mark.

New survey report published: The regulatory conditions of internet interconnection

2016-03-01 Thread Uta Meier-Hahn
Hi, A couple of months ago, I asked you to share your experiences with regards to public regulation of internet interconnection in a survey. Many networkers from around the globe participated. Thank you! The report has now been published. I’m including the executive summary below. The full pap