Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread Mike Hammett
A lot of new gear is gigabit. The current price\performance leader is SIAE's ALFOPlus2. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jean-Francois Mezei"

Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread Mike Hammett
You might be better served with the lists over at wispa.org. Not saying the people here don't have the answers, but that's what those guys do. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com -

Re: Colocation Server Lifts

2016-04-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
They are much more likely to be used for things like Juniper MX960's (and larger), Brocade MLXe-32's (and larger), etc. Routers and switches that weigh hundreds or thousands of pounds ;) On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Wayne Bouchard wrote: > In all my time dealing with various

Re: Colocation Server Lifts

2016-04-04 Thread Wayne Bouchard
In all my time dealing with various colos around the globe, I cannot say that I can ever recall hearing (or seeing) someone refer to using a lift to install or dismount a server. My inclination therefore is that it is not something likely to be common. That it may exist in locations I have had

Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread mike . lyon
And some more options: Mimosa Netwtk 10 Ghz livensed solutuon, in excess of gigabit throughput. Licensed 10 ghz and 6 ghz can go pretty long distances (20+ miles) Also check out SAF Tehbika licensed radios, mkstly 366 Mbps throughput but they have a wider band radio now too. Cambium, Ceragon

Better Conversation following tools for Wireshark?

2016-04-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
I have to do a little interactive monitoring this week, and while I want to run Wireshark to log the packets, I'd also like to be able to do some more hands on, flow-based monitoring, and the Conversations tool in WS2.x isn't up to the task; it won't let me roll up all traffic for a local IP into

Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk

2016-04-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- h...@efes.iucc.ac.il wrote: From: Hank Nussbacher Also providers lie either intentionally or by mistake. s/ or by mistake// There fixed that. ;-) scott

Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
Thanks everyone. I got the sanity check I needed. The telcos often have old microwave links to rural communities and in trying to outfit communities with modern broadband (which the telco hasn't done), there needs to be consideration for the link back to civilisation. Up existing microwave links

Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk

2016-04-04 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, Christopher Morrow wrote: ​different providers, different entrance facilities in the building(s), different conduits out of the area... and hope that somewhere along the path providerA and B didn't share conduit or capacity-swap you to a single path :)​ I would suggest

Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread Josh Luthman
AF5 is not in the market for 1 gbps links FYI. The AF5x is a better product IMO and is $800 per link + dishes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Cryptographrix wrote: > I do

Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: From: Jean-Francois Mezei In a context of providing rural communities with modern broadband. Reading some tells me that Microwave links can be raised to 1gbps. How common is that ? I assume that cell phone towers have modern

Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread Cryptographrix
I do not have direct experience with this, but Ubiquiti's AirFiber 5 seems like an applicable solution: https://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber5/ It runs around $1.000USD each On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 1:30 PM Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > In a context of providing

Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/4/16 2:28 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > > In a context of providing rural communities with modern broadband. > > Reading some tells me that Microwave links can be raised to 1gbps. How > common is that ? for wireless backhaul of cell-towers, some wisp infrastructure and for this like

RE: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread Tyler Applebaum
DragonWave is one of the bigger players in the game offering 1gbps+ throughput. http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/products/packet-microwave -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois Mezei Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 10:29 AM To: Nanog@nanog.org

Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
In a context of providing rural communities with modern broadband. Reading some tells me that Microwave links can be raised to 1gbps. How common is that ? I assume that cell phone towers have modern microwave links (when not directly on fibre). What sort of capacity would typically be provided

Time Warner IPv6 - need answers

2016-04-04 Thread Philip Lavine via NANOG
When is TW in Los Angeles going to support ipv6 prefix delegation? I received a /128 (even though the advanced tech support said they did not support it).

Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk

2016-04-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On 4/Apr/16 15:29, magicb...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > How can we get this in this world where everyone is moving to big Data > Center / Colo-Hosters.In this kind of colo providers, you usually > have a Meet-Me-Room or similar (which is a single point of failure) > and no control on how

Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk

2016-04-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:29 AM, magicb...@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi guys > > thanks everyone for your replies. > > I'd like to highlight this concept that Christopher gave before: > > ​"different providers, different entrance facilities in the building(s), > different

Re: Someone Please Help Me Understand

2016-04-04 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Eric, There is no simple cut and dry way of troubleshooting such a situation, other than need to look at the problem in multiple different ways.. It also helps in being able to do some comparative test/results with another nearby network... It is also not un-common to have to shutdown a peer

Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk

2016-04-04 Thread magicb...@hotmail.com
Hi guys thanks everyone for your replies. I'd like to highlight this concept that Christopher gave before: ​"different providers, different entrance facilities in the building(s), different conduits out of the area... " How can we get this in this world where everyone is moving to big Data

Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk

2016-04-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On 4/Apr/16 14:58, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > ​so (as bill points out) plan to localize subnets to each pop. (do not > number customers in pop1 in the same /24 as customers in pop2)​ Yes. May lead to some global de-aggregation, but can't really avoid that. > > ​be aware of gre / ip-in-ip

Re: Colocation Server Lifts

2016-04-04 Thread Alex Lesser
Very good questions with not so clear cut answers. In line. > On Mar 29, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Jason Lee wrote: > > Hi NANOG community, > > A few questions I have for the community regarding server lifts at colo > facilities. > > 1. Is a server lift something you would

Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk

2016-04-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 31/Mar/16 10:12, magicb...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > 1. What could happen in the case of total failure in the redundant > > leased lines? Black hole routing between POPs? > > If you

RE: Someone Please Help Me Understand

2016-04-04 Thread Eric Rogers
Thanks Faisal, I appreciate the time you took and the detail you have placed. I did try prepending our HE connection thinking it was an issue via HE, and we started going out Level3, and it also went to Dallas with nearly the same packet loss. I don't know what the return path is/was, but

SAFNOG-3 Meeting - Date Change Updates

2016-04-04 Thread Mark Tinka
Hello all. Due to an unfortunate set of circumstances, the SAFNOG-3 meeting dates have changed. Please visit the SAFNOG web site for details on this, at the URL below: http://safnog.org/ The SAFNOG-3 meeting is still going ahead as described on the web site. Detailed planning for the