Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 16:01, John Levine wrote: OK, let us suppose I want to be a law biding, up right American and use only a cellphone for the "right" area. I drive a big truck OTR. I usually know what part of which state I am in, but I frequently do not know which part of what state I will be in in

DOCSIS 3.1 upstream

Canadian cable carriers seem to have all told the CRTC they can only carry 42mhz in the upstream because their amplifiers and nodes only amplify that narrow band in the upstream direction. Is/was 42mhz common across north america ? In a typical installation, how much of the 42mhz is actually

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/13/16 6:25 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: You *do* realize that the woman in the McDonald's case got *third degree* burns and required skin grafts, right? Water at 180F is hot enough to burn you - we even have a word for it: scalding. And unlike sipping too-hot coffee, where you can

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

You do realize that this is the exact kind of thing that caused this discussion in the first place. I'm well familiar with that case. I was talking about my own experiences in the food service industry, but of course you barely read a sentence and set on a war path accusing me of not checking

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

--- j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote: From: Josh Reynolds Is NANOG really the best place for this discussion? -- Filter it out. scott

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

> On Apr 14, 2016, at 14:01 , John Levine wrote: > >> OK, let us suppose I want to be a law biding, up right American and use >> only a cellphone for the "right" area. >> >> I drive a big truck OTR. I usually know what part of which state I am >> in, but I frequently do not

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

> On Apr 14, 2016, at 13:14 , Larry Sheldon wrote: > > On 4/14/2016 12:09, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >>> On Apr 14, 2016, at 05:46 , John Levine wrote: >>> If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you won't have out-of-area

Security Track @ NANOG 67 Call for Participation

[ Apologies if you saw this elsewhere already - jtk ] Friends, colleagues, fellow operators, The network security track, formerly known as the ISP security BoF, may be on the agenda at NANOG 67 in Chicago and if we can put together a reasonable agenda I may be your track facilitator. We not

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

>OK, let us suppose I want to be a law biding, up right American and use >only a cellphone for the "right" area. > >I drive a big truck OTR. I usually know what part of which state I am >in, but I frequently do not know which part of what state I will be in >in 24 hours. > >What should I do?

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 15:10, Larry Sheldon wrote: We wrote off a lot of revenue on calls that involved a company (if I remembered the name I still would not repeat it--ditto its location) which turn out to be pretty much one man who like to sell and install mobile radio telephone stations. And, it

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 2016-04-14 16:14, Larry Sheldon wrote: > Quick question: What happens (in the purely hypothetical case, I > sincerely hope) if the building is on fire and it turns out that the > VOIP-phone is the only one that works? VOIP: Not purely theoretical situation. 911 where I live would take

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 12:09, Owen DeLong wrote: On Apr 14, 2016, at 05:46 , John Levine wrote: If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you won't have out-of-area numbers other than a rare corner case of a very expensive foreign exchange line. If they're VoIP

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 10:45, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: . So maybe 10% of all cell phones are primarly used in the "wrong" area? Obligatory xkcd ref: https://xkcd.com/1129/ I am reminded of incidents many years ago when I

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 10:32, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:29:39AM -, John Levine wrote: The people on nanog are not typical. I looked around for statistics and didn't find much, but it looks like only a few percent of numbers are ported each month, and it's

Re: FCC Privacy NPRM

Page Not Found Link wasn't copied correctly, the "consumer-privacy" bit was cut off. Here's the working link: https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-proposed-rules-protect-broadband-consumer-privacy On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr

Re: FCC Privacy NPRM

On Thu, 14 Apr 2016, Livingood, Jason wrote: I have not yet read all of the 147 pages of the FCC Privacy NPRM - https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-proposed-rules-protect-broadband- consumer-privacy. But it may be worth noting, especially for this audience, that the FCC proposes

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

Since then, I’ve been pretty much satisfied with my service from callcentric and the price is right. That's who I use. Now there's just a box on the web site to say not in the US. R's, John

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

> On Apr 14, 2016, at 05:46 , John Levine wrote: > >> If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you won't >> have out-of-area numbers other than a rare corner case of a very >> expensive foreign exchange line. If they're VoIP lines, the address is >>

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

All, Is NANOG really the best place for this discussion? On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > . >> So maybe 10% of all cell phones are primarly used in the "wrong"

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: . > So maybe 10% of all cell phones are primarly used in the "wrong" area? Obligatory xkcd ref: https://xkcd.com/1129/

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

In a message written on Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:29:39AM -, John Levine wrote: > The people on nanog are not typical. I looked around for statistics > and didn't find much, but it looks like only a few percent of numbers > are ported each month, and it's often the same numbers being ported >

FCC Privacy NPRM [was Re: GeoIP database]

I have not yet read all of the 147 pages of the FCC Privacy NPRM - https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-proposed-rules-protect-broadband- consumer-privacy. But it may be worth noting, especially for this audience, that the FCC proposes considering things like IP addresses and geo-location

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

"If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you won't have out-of-area numbers other than a rare corner case of a very expensive foreign exchange line." This hasn't been a true statement since Local Number Portability. NPA/NXX is nothing more than 'where the number originally

Re: G root not responding on UDP?

On 2016-04-14 14:29, Robert Kisteleki wrote: > On 2016-04-14 13:30, Anurag Bhatia wrote: >> Hello everyone >> >> >> I wonder if it's just me or anyone else also finding issues in g root >> reachability? >> >> >> ICMP, trace, UDP DNS queries all timing out. Only TCP seem to work. > > > It's not

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

>If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you won't >have out-of-area numbers other than a rare corner case of a very >expensive foreign exchange line. If they're VoIP lines, the address is >*supposed* to be so registered, but softphones and even VoIP handsets >tend to

Re: Juniper vMX evaluation - how?

Thanks to all who responded (and thanks to the NANOGger who provided me with images). I am a bit disappointed that others have also had the silent treatment after signing up to download vMX. I am unsurprised that vMX 14.x has had teething troubles. I also hope JNPR listen to us that Intel

Re: G root not responding on UDP?

On 2016-04-14 13:30, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Hello everyone > > > I wonder if it's just me or anyone else also finding issues in g root > reachability? > > > ICMP, trace, UDP DNS queries all timing out. Only TCP seem to work. It's not only you:

Re: G root not responding on UDP?

I'm see the same thing from multiple networks. $ dig NS . @g.root-servers.net ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5 <<>> NS . @g.root-servers.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Hello

G root not responding on UDP?

Hello everyone I wonder if it's just me or anyone else also finding issues in g root reachability? ICMP, trace, UDP DNS queries all timing out. Only TCP seem to work. Trace is timing out on 208.46.37.38. traceroute to 192.112.36.4 (192.112.36.4), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1