Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Tim Raphael
There is a downside to subscription pricing for the vendor: they don't get the instant cashflow they're used to. I know Cisco seems to be taking a tactic where only some product lines use subscriptions and the others are on a typical enterprise 3-5 year replacements cycle to provide Cisco with

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2016-06-29 at 16:00 -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote: > I often wonder if Microsoft will someday make Office365 the only way > to get Office, which if you don't maintain a subscription your > locally installed copy of Word will cease to function. I live for that day. Regards, K. --

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/29/16 15:33, Eric Kuhnke wrote: My biggest issue with Meraki is the fundamentally flawed business model, biased in favor of vendor lock in and endlessly recurring payments to the equipment vendor rather than the ISP or enterprise end user. You should not have to pay a yearly subscription

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Spencer Ryan
I treat Meraki like SmartNET. The subscription comes with lifetime support (TAC + Warranty), you do have support on your production network gear don't you? It's not like they trick you going into it either. I for one am a huge fan of the simplicity, it just works. Disclaimer: We use them. ~35

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
My biggest issue with Meraki is the fundamentally flawed business model, biased in favor of vendor lock in and endlessly recurring payments to the equipment vendor rather than the ISP or enterprise end user. You should not have to pay a yearly subscription fee to keep your in-house

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Greg Sowell
Lorenzo did a MUM presentation(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeZetH9uX_Y) on how road warriors can can connect with a Mikrotik to automatically configure VPN. Pretty novel idea using inexpensive hardware. It may not be as user friendly as you need, though. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:21 AM,

RE: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread c b
Guys, thanks for all the responses. Thanks to everyone's feedback, we have a number of options that were not on the original list and that is what I was hoping for. Now it's a matter of comparing cost/learning-curve/support-challenge/compatibility with tools/monitoring, etc... Thanks again. >

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Rich Testani
For several of our clients, we use Sophos UTMs coupled with their RED units. Once registered with the UTM, the RED unit auto creates an SSL based VPN back to the UTM. The RED unit is managed from the UTM and pulls it's config when it boots. It's similar to the function of Meraki without the

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Shawn L
I believe they fixed this -- when I've spoken to tech support recently, I had to give them a tech support key so that they could access the devices I had questions about. -Original Message- From: "Paul Nash" Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:55am To: "Untitled

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Paul Nash
My biggest issue with Meraki is that their tech staff can run tcpdump on the wired or wireless interface of your Meraki box without having to leave their desk. I have no reason to believe that they are malicious, or in the pay of the NSA, but I am too paranoid to allow their equipment anywhere