Re: Qrator Radar - Peerings

2017-12-05 Thread Yang Yu
Have you received a response from qrator? My guess is that they dropped a BGP collector session that was advertising garbage (modifying AS path to make non-connected ASNs appear connected). >most ASNs left permanently on at 2017-03-11 21:00:00 were never connected

Equinix SV8 Facebook IPv6 router 2001:504:D::47/64 constantly bouncing sessions

2017-12-05 Thread Peter Kranz
Are other SV8 peering exchange participants seeing problems with Facebooks 2001:504:D::47/64 router in the SV8? Been seeing this for over 48 hours now. No issues with other SV8 peers, or Facebooks other IPv6 router in the facility. Dec  5 18:52:00: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 2001:504:D::47 Down

Any Megapath / GTT clue?

2017-12-05 Thread mike . lyon
Getting no where with the front end support @ Megapath. /28 suddenly is no longer being routed to my client. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You, Mike

Qrator Radar - Peerings

2017-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Does anyone use this site much? Has something happened to reduce their visibility? I've noticed multiple networks that had massive drops in peerings on or around March 11, 2017. AS5650 went from 66 to 12. AS53828 went from 436 to 19. PCH's AS3856 looking glass still reports adjacencies to

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

2017-12-05 Thread Scott Weeks
--- b...@herrin.us wrote: From: William Herrin Even the relatively good ones are bad. I have identified 60 and am on track to identify about 200 errors in the official ISC2 CISSP study guide. - One last one I promise... :-) I also

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

2017-12-05 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > Have you seen neteng certs lately? I'm forced to maintain a > lower level one to keep my job and it makes me angry every > time I have to do it. The sales pitch is hidden in the words > and the correct answer is almost

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

2017-12-05 Thread Scott Weeks
--- l...@satchell.net wrote: From: Stephen Satchell Indeed, I'm not aware of any certification that applies to system administrators. Network administrators have certs that are well-recognized and accepted. Mail admins? Server admins? The certs that are out there

Re: Novice sysadmins

2017-12-05 Thread Tim Pozar
Should have an honorary list of great sysadmins. In my years of doing this sort of work, I found a number of folks that would lend a helping hand. To that, I would like to nominate: Strata Rose Chalup -- Strata Rose Chalup began as a novice sysadmin in 1983 and has been leading

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Colin Baker
On 2017-12-05 15:22, t...@wicks.co.nz wrote: Fixed format EX's range max out at 128k routes, definitely not an option there unless I am really missing something. I often use EX/QFX for l3, but no way they come anywhere near a full table. yep :) set routing-options maximum-prefixes

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
What's the application? I'll throw a somewhat oddball option out there - you can fit full tables into RIB on many Juniper EX switches. Limited use cases for sure, but it can be handy if you can limit what's installed into FIB. Fixed format EX's range max out at 128k routes, definitely not an

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Mark Blackman
> On 4 Dec 2017, at 19:19, Adam Lawson wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for suggestions on 1U-2U sized router with 1G interface > which can handle both IPv4 and IPv6 full BGP table and doesn't consume > too much power. > > > > The router needs to be squeezed in to

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Colin Baker
On 2017-12-05 12:44, Adam Lawson wrote: Hi, Thanks for all the replies. I think the options that came up are: - Juniper MXs The reason I wrote M7i instead of the MX was I far as I looked on the Juniper site, it seems to use more power than the M7i (though you get more performance).

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

2017-12-05 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > the Internet as we know it was developed under the stern eyes of the > Department of Defense and the National Science Foundation. The NSF in > particular ran the 'Net like bouncers do in a strip club: you break the >

Re: Novice sysadmins

2017-12-05 Thread Miles Fidelman
And then, let's not forget the BOFH! (http://www.bofharchive.com), and Mordac. On 12/5/17 11:40 AM, Sam Oduor wrote: Subject of interest; my 15 years experience I met a blend of senior admins while learning the curves .. 1. Those who denied you knowledge/handover due to insecurity 2.

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
No, not actually seen one in real life yet. Interesting thing of course is it runs VMX JunOS code. -Original Message- From: Georg Kahest [mailto:georg.kah...@internet.ee] Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 8:01 AM To: t...@wicks.co.nz; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Small full BGP table

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
- Juniper MXs The reason I wrote M7i instead of the MX was I far as I looked on the Juniper site, it seems to use more power than the M7i (though you get more performance). The M150 has just been released, if its within the budget I wold suggest it will very nicely fit the requirement with

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/5/17 10:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I understand that most BGP implementations are single-threaded. Well, yeah. That's where the "lots of slow cores" model doesn't work. ~Seth

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Adam Lawson
Hi, Thanks for all the replies. I think the options that came up are: - Mikrotiks This fits my requirements pretty nicely, however as Mike pointed out the single threaded BGP is a bit of concern. Also, just that I'm not a very big fan of the /xxx Mikrotik CLI. - EdgeRouter Pros, Juniper M7i -

Re: Novice sysadmins

2017-12-05 Thread Sam Oduor
Subject of interest; my 15 years experience I met a blend of senior admins while learning the curves .. 1. Those who denied you knowledge/handover due to insecurity 2. Those who fed you with knowledge but were rude and could make you feel like you undergoing some military training 3. Those

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
It's a couple year old Xeon running vSphere. Once I get some other migrations done, I'll load either vSphere or Proxmox onto the hardware running the Vyatta firewall now and run a CHR there as well for a second upstream. I'm not yet sure what the underlying hardware is for that one. My x86

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
Yea, as much as I love Juniper Hardware the M series is really a long way on the past at this point. I would suggest the new MX150 is the way to go for up to 20G requirements. Of course that's in a different league from the OP's criteria. -Original Message- From: NANOG

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread mike . lyon
What hardware you running the CHR on? > On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:29, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I'm replacing an M10i with a CHR. > > I hope you have a newer RE so that you don't have worse BGP convergence than > a CCR. > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent

Re: Novice sysadmins

2017-12-05 Thread Miles Fidelman
Umm.. back in the day, only researchers & engineers used the ARPANET, and secretaries, and administrators, and very quickly lots of military ratings, ... By the time networks were connected to form the Internet, and particularly once university LANs and CANs were connected, you had students,

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm replacing an M10i with a CHR. I hope you have a newer RE so that you don't have worse BGP convergence than a CCR. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "mike lyon"

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I understand that most BGP implementations are single-threaded. The problem is that it sucks, which version 7 fixes... whenever the unicorn makes that delivery. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com -

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

2017-12-05 Thread amuse
Back in the day, only Ph.D's used the internet, so they were the sysadmins. These days, I recommend that system administration be only allowed for card-holding responsible people who have proven their technical abilities. Then, when you get awarded your Ph.D, they can take your sysadmin card

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread mike . lyon
Unfortunately, yes. Thats why two Juniper M7is just arrived on my doorstep yesterday... > On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:10, wrote: > > Is that actually still true nowadays ? Of course there is always the option > of running RouterOS on an X86 for an effective

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
Is that actually still true nowadays ? Of course there is always the option of running RouterOS on an X86 for an effective solution as well. -Original Message- From: mike.l...@gmail.com [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 7:07 AM To: t...@wicks.co.nz Cc:

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread mike . lyon
Bad thing about the CCRs is that their BGP process is single threaded. So even though it has a bunch of cores, it doesn’t utilize them for BGP. -Mike > On Dec 5, 2017, at 09:50, wrote: > > For me the obvious answer for the OP is the Mikrotik CCR range - >

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
For me the obvious answer for the OP is the Mikrotik CCR range - https://mikrotik.com/product/CCR1036-8G-2Splus -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 6:00 AM To: nanog@nanog.org list

Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider

2017-12-05 Thread John Levine
In article <20171205105918.ga8...@gsp.org> you write: > "Current Peeve: The mindset that the Internet is some sort of > school for novice sysadmins and that everyone *not* doing stupid > dangerous things should act like patient teachers with the ones > who are." Up to a

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
It is worth mentioning for those who have not seen a Ubiquiti "edgrouter" in person yet, or worked with one, where their operating system came from... When Vyatta was acquired by Brocade, the core Vyatta team jumped ship and were hired directly by Ubiquiti. When you SSH into one of these whether

Re: Novice sysadmins

2017-12-05 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 12/05/2017 09:17 AM, Harald Koch wrote: Thirty years ago I started my sysadmin journey on an Internet that was filled with helpful, experienced people that were willing to share their knowledge. The vast majority of what I've experienced in the last ~20 years has been people willing to

Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider

2017-12-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
In my experience with creating new mail servers that use IP addresses belonging to dedicated hosting/colocation/VPS companies. This is *after* all of the obvious setup things like having a real static IP, A records, PTR records, SPF and DKIM set up proprely, are taken care of so that a public

Re: Lanner Devices - NCA-5510

2017-12-05 Thread Andrew Latham
Raymond Reading that I see the possibility that you could have a bad unit. Verifying with another unit would be great to confirm. Personally I would use something like https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/Mini-ITX/SYS-E300-9A.cfm where the supply chain can get me parts faster for scale and

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

2017-12-05 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 06:49:43AM -0800, Stephen Satchell wrote: > The NSF in particular ran the 'Net like bouncers do in a strip club: > you break the rules, you go. No argument. I'm not sure I've ever seen a more inaccurate description of the NSF. What in the world are

Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider

2017-12-05 Thread Robert Story
On Mon 2017-12-04 16:00:11-0700 Grant wrote: > I've been using a VPS as my primary mail server for > 2 years and > have only been black listed once. Even that was a 12 hour automated > listing because I sent one message to an address I had not used in 7 > years, which had since been converted

Any from amazon cloud app.conceptboard.com

2017-12-05 Thread Shoaib Farhan
Hi, Anyone from Amazon Cloud in this list. Need help for app.conceptboard.com. Our client complaining they are getting disconnected from this site. Traceroute/mtr showing path is keep changing. traceroute to app.conceptboard.com (52.17.144.46), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1

Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider

2017-12-05 Thread amuse
I run my own mailserver... ​ On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: > On 12/04/2017 03:47 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > >> The concept is sound, but attempting to use your $5 VPS as your outbound >> mail relay is only going to end in pain and tears -- your

Re: Novice sysadmins

2017-12-05 Thread Michael Thomas
On 12/05/2017 08:17 AM, Harald Koch wrote: Thirty years ago I started my sysadmin journey on an Internet that was filled with helpful, experienced people that were willing to share their knowledge. Twenty years ago I was one of three people running CA*net, the cross-Canada research Internet

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

2017-12-05 Thread Harald Koch
Thirty years ago I started my sysadmin journey on an Internet that was filled with helpful, experienced people that were willing to share their knowledge. Twenty years ago I was one of three people running CA*net, the cross-Canada research Internet with three connections to the NSFnet. I don't

Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider

2017-12-05 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 12/05/2017 06:38 AM, Edwin Pers wrote: You'd think so, yes. Somehow Google and DO and most other hosting companies manage to do it. Feels like AWS truly doesn't care about it. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, ignorance, or negligence." --based on

Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

2017-12-05 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 12/05/2017 02:59 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 07:38:18PM -0500, Eric Tykwinski wrote: Main point I think is mailops comes with a learning curve, and it happens... "Current Peeve: The mindset that the Internet is some sort of school for novice sysadmins

RE: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider

2017-12-05 Thread Edwin Pers
>Last week we found out that Helpscout sends email from AWS servers. Ouch. I'm in the same boat as you are - three of our biggest suppliers have all their public-facing stuff hosted on AWS, including their email smarthosts. None of them have static addresses. >This is incorrect reasoning.

Lanner Devices - NCA-5510

2017-12-05 Thread Raymond Burkholder
Hello, A number of people have been suggesting Lanner boxes for routing. I have used FW-7543A and FW-7573A boxes with Debian with no issues. I am currently trying the NCA-5510 model with NCS2-IGM806B (XL710) and NCS2-IXM407A (I350) cards with a standard Debian Stretch installation. I was

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Jerry Jones
MX150? On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:13 PM, C. Jon Larsen wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2017, Naslund, Steve wrote: FWIW ... OpenBSD on a lanner appliance with openbgpd will chew 1G. Especially on the latest version - 6.2. Debian on the same lanner running bird would also chew that as

Re: Akamai contact

2017-12-05 Thread Jared Mauch
replied offlist. ping me if you need something fyi. - jared On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 06:14:24PM -0600, J. Oquendo wrote: > Can one of the Akamai (non salesy) guys ping me off list > please. Security related. > > -- >

Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider

2017-12-05 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 07:38:18PM -0500, Eric Tykwinski wrote: > Main point I think is mailops comes with a learning curve, and it happens... "Current Peeve: The mindset that the Internet is some sort of school for novice sysadmins and that everyone *not* doing stupid