Re: Free access to measurement network

2017-12-16 Thread John Osmon
> My point was that consumers voted out thousands of independents by > taking service from incumbents instead of independents. Thousands have > closed up shop. Where independents are available, it's still tough > getting customers if the incumbents have a service that mostly works > (over say 5 to

Re: Free access to measurement network

2017-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
That project was paid for by ARRA funds and ran out. The FCC picked up the ball by expanding the scope of its 477 program. That data is available directly on their site or via some sites like broadbandnow.com There are also many service providers available that aren't filing because either A)

Re: Free access to measurement network

2017-12-16 Thread Lee
On 12/16/17, Mike Hammett wrote: > It's a consumer thing. If consumers wanted more options, they would be > supporting those options with their wallets. They don't. As far as I know, my options for >50Mb/s are comcast and verizon. https://www.broadbandmap.gov/ sez Please note: National Broadban

Re: Free access to measurement network

2017-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I know what the report says and I'll stand by my statement. The consumers have voted for that with their wallets. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "David Conrad" To: nanog@nanog.org Se

Re: Free access to measurement network

2017-12-16 Thread Martin Hepworth
You been in contact with the guys at Samknows.com ? On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 at 15:09, Janusz Jezowicz wrote: > Hello, > > Feel free to shoot me down if you think I am posting against the rules of > this mailing list but I think it may be helpful for some guys here. > > We have over 1000 routers depl

Re: Free access to measurement network

2017-12-16 Thread David Conrad
Mike, On Dec 16, 2017, 4:23 PM +0100, Mike Hammett , wrote: > It's a consumer thing. If consumers wanted more options, they would be > supporting those options with their wallets. They don’t. The report Valdis quoted said "More than 129 million people are limited to a single provider for broadb

Re: Free access to measurement network

2017-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
It's a consumer thing. If consumers wanted more options, they would be supporting those options with their wallets. They don't. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Max Tulyev" To: nanog@n

Re: Free access to measurement network

2017-12-16 Thread Max Tulyev
So for my point of view, better solution is to push some law that ease access to the buildings for ISPs. 15.12.17 19:40, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu пише: > On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 07:47:42 -0500, Dovid Bender said: >> What kind of internet are these devices on? With Net Neutrality gone here >> in the US