Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Owen DeLong
Giving each nanobot a pair of /64s would be absurd. Maybe they aren’t all on the same link (there are no broadcast domains in IPv6), but likely a few /64s would cover each person. Owen > On Dec 29, 2017, at 18:31, Michael Crapse wrote: > > And if a medical breakthrough

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Dec 29, 2017, at 17:11, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- jlightf...@gmail.com wrote: > From: John Lightfoot > > Excuse the top post, but this seems to be an > argument between people who understand big > numbers and those who don't. >

Re: 48vDC Output UPS

2017-12-29 Thread Bryan Holloway
Eltek is worth a look. Really solid stuff. Used them for awhile now. If you want battery back-up, it'll probably take more than 3 RU, though. On 12/29/17 9:16 PM, Lewis,Mitchell T. wrote: I should have been more specific(Quite obvious by the responses I have been getting). I am looking for a

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Randy Bush
the good thing about these long threads, which have ZERO new information, is having a KillThread command in one's mail user agent. get a life!

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Scott Weeks
--- br...@ampr.org wrote: From: Brian Kantor Just how many nanobots can dance on the head of a pin? --- 2^128? Just guessing. >;-) scott

Re: 48vDC Output UPS

2017-12-29 Thread Lewis,Mitchell T.
I should have been more specific(Quite obvious by the responses I have been getting). I am looking for a rack mount rectifier type device for a remote site(Not a Datacenter/Colo) which outputs 48vdc & has an 120vac input. I would like it to be remote monitor-able via snmp(battery charge,

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > Stop thinking in terms of people. Think in > terms of huge numbers of 'things' in the > ocean, in the atmosphere, in space, zillions > of 'things' on and around everyone's bodies > and homes and myriad other 'things'

Re: 48vDC Output UPS

2017-12-29 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Lewis,Mitchell T. wrote: > I have been looking for a Rack Mount UPS that accepts AC power input but > has 48vdc output(telco voltage). Anyone have any recommendations? > Hi Mitchell, That's not usually called an UPS. What you need is

Re: 48vDC Output UPS

2017-12-29 Thread Brock Tice
On December 29, 2017 5:58:02 PM MST, "Lewis,Mitchell T." wrote: >Greetings again, >I have been looking for a Rack Mount UPS that accepts AC power input >but has 48vdc output(telco voltage). Anyone have any recommendations? > > > >Regards, > >Mitchell T. Lewis > >[

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Brian Kantor
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 02:46:49AM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > (the time has finally arrived) > Obligatory xkcd ref: https://xkcd.com/865/ Just how many nanobots can dance on the head of a pin? - Brian

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Michael Crapse wrote: > And if a medical breakthrough happens within the next 30 years? Nanobots > that process insulin for the diabetic, or take care of cancer, or repair > your cells so you don't age, or whatever, perhaps the inventor things

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Michael Crapse
And if a medical breakthrough happens within the next 30 years? Nanobots that process insulin for the diabetic, or take care of cancer, or repair your cells so you don't age, or whatever, perhaps the inventor things ipv6 is a good idea for such an endeavour. a nanobot is microns wide, and there

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Scott Weeks
--- baldur.nordd...@gmail.com wrote: From: Baldur Norddahl Nobody needs to worry...Historically we spent... -- Out of context, but yeah that. scott

Re: 48vDC Output UPS

2017-12-29 Thread Brandon Martin
On 12/29/2017 07:58 PM, Lewis,Mitchell T. wrote: Greetings again, I have been looking for a Rack Mount UPS that accepts AC power input but has 48vdc output(telco voltage). Anyone have any recommendations? Are you saying you want a 48V battery but AC in and AC to the devices being provided

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Nobody needs to worry. I promise to reserve the last /32 out of my /29 assignment. When the world has run out of addresses, I will start to sell from my pool using the same allocation policy that was used for IPv4. I would consider a /64 to be equal a /32 IPv4 address. This would make a /56

Re: 48vDC Output UPS

2017-12-29 Thread Brian Kantor
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 04:58:02PM -0800, Lewis,Mitchell T. wrote: > Greetings again, > I have been looking for a Rack Mount UPS that accepts AC power input but has > 48vdc output(telco voltage). Anyone have any recommendations? > Regards, > Mitchell T. Lewis > [ mailto:mle...@techcompute.net

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Mel Beckman
I'm saying I should be able to use whatever size LAN I want. Go ahead. Just don't use anybody else's addresses to do it. :) -mel On Dec 29, 2017, at 4:52 PM, John Lightfoot > wrote: Excuse the top post, but this seems to be an argument

Re: 48vDC Output UPS

2017-12-29 Thread João Butzke
Mitchell, You can use Emerson Netsure (https://www.vertivco.com/en-us/products/brands/netsure/) You need to set next to the rack a battery bank ( 4x12v = 48v batteries in series ) Best Regards, João Butzke. Em 29/12/2017 22:58, Lewis,Mitchell T. escreveu: Greetings again, I have been

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jlightf...@gmail.com wrote: From: John Lightfoot Excuse the top post, but this seems to be an argument between people who understand big numbers and those who don't. No, not exactly. It's also about those that think in

48vDC Output UPS

2017-12-29 Thread Lewis,Mitchell T.
Greetings again, I have been looking for a Rack Mount UPS that accepts AC power input but has 48vdc output(telco voltage). Anyone have any recommendations? Regards, Mitchell T. Lewis [ mailto:mle...@techcompute.net | mle...@techcompute.net ] [ http://linkedin.com/in/mlewiscc ]

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread John Lightfoot
Excuse the top post, but this seems to be an argument between people who understand big numbers and those who don't. IPv4 has 2^32 addresses, IPv6 has 2^128, which means 79 octillion people can each have their own internet. I think Owen is being modest when he says no one alive will be around

Re: Wi-Fi Analyzer

2017-12-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
In addition to the other tools already recommended by previous posters, I recommend buying one of these: https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/nanobeam-ac-gen2/ It's a directional antenna/radio integrated unit and is intended as a point to point or point-to-multipoint WISP client radio. The one feature

Re: Wi-Fi Analyzer

2017-12-29 Thread Sean Heskett
iStumbler on the Mac -Sean On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 8:17 AM Bryan Holloway wrote: > Curious if the community has any recommendations and/or positive > experiences to share for a handheld Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) analyzer. > > Software/laptop-based solutions can be unwieldy in

Re: Wi-Fi Analyzer

2017-12-29 Thread Richard
Sorry for the top post, but I too end up going back to Wi Fi analyzer on my Android. I have found it covers all the basics which i need and am able to locate any difficulty I may be having. It works and you can carry it in your pocket instead of dragging a laptop around. Richard On

Weekly Routing Table Report

2017-12-29 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG, CaribNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG, IRNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 5:27 AM, wrote: > It's rather interesting how parsing of variable length addresses was > thought to be way too complicated - while parsing of IPv6 extension > header chains of unknown length was okay. > IIRC, IPv6 extension headers are optional. The

Re: Wi-Fi Analyzer

2017-12-29 Thread Troy Martin
For OSX specific requirement, I suggest looking at “Wi-Fi Explorer Pro”. It scans for SSIDs, integrates with Metageek Wi-Spy for SpecA, connects to remote sensors. Eval for 10 days before needing pay. The developer (Adrian Granados) also makes a tool called “Wi-Fi signal” (menu bar

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
Owen DeLong wrote: > fast routers mostly don’t parse those chains. ...unless they need to access the L4 header information in order to create useful hashes to load balance over LAG or ECMP bundles, or implement any sort of filtering, or RE / control plane policing. But outside these corner

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 29, 2017, at 02:27, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: >>> My wild guess is if we'd just waited a little bit longer to formalize >>> IPng we'd've more seriously considered variable length addressing with >>> a byte indicating how many octets in the address even if only 2 >>> lengths were

Re: Wi-Fi Analyzer

2017-12-29 Thread Alan Buxey
Scout Aircheck G2 is quite nifty - but a lot of tools out there are only just a little bit above what you can do with a decent Android phone (one with 802.11a/b/g/n/ac chipset) and WiFiAnalyzer ! :) alan

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Dec 28, 2017, at 18:54, Ricky Beam wrote: > >> On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 21:05:33 -0500, Owen DeLong wrote: >> If you want to make that argument, that we shouldn’t have SLAAC and we >> should use /96 prefixes, that wouldn’t double the space, it would

Re: Wi-Fi Analyzer

2017-12-29 Thread Brian Reichert
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 09:17:26AM -0600, Bryan Holloway wrote: > Curious if the community has any recommendations and/or positive > experiences to share for a handheld Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) analyzer. > > Software/laptop-based solutions can be unwieldy in certain environments. > However,

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
>>> My wild guess is if we'd just waited a little bit longer to formalize >>> IPng we'd've more seriously considered variable length addressing with >>> a byte indicating how many octets in the address even if only 2 >>> lengths were immediately implemented (4 and 16.) >> Actually, that got heaved

Re: 1/2u 100g Metro-E Aggregation Switch

2017-12-29 Thread Lewis,Mitchell T.
Any further details on this? I haven't seen any press releases from Juniper. Regards, Mitchell T. Lewis [ mailto:mle...@techcompute.net | mle...@techcompute.net ] [ http://linkedin.com/in/mlewiscc ] |203-816-0371 PGP Fingerprint: 79F2A12BAC77827581C734212AFA805732A1394E [

Re: Foundry FastIron

2017-12-29 Thread Olivier Benghozi
By the way, Foundry/Brocade small/campus switches were sold by Broadcom to Ruckus, not to Extreme (who bought the bigger switch/routers). https://support.ruckuswireless.com/product_families/21-ruckus-icx-campus-switches

Wi-Fi Analyzer

2017-12-29 Thread Bryan Holloway
Curious if the community has any recommendations and/or positive experiences to share for a handheld Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) analyzer. Software/laptop-based solutions can be unwieldy in certain environments. However, given rave reviews, I'm open to the idea as long as it's Mac-compatible.

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: It's rather interesting how parsing of variable length addresses was thought to be way too complicated - while parsing of IPv6 extension header chains of unknown length was okay. I think this can be explained by "routers don't need to parse

Re: 1/2u 100g Metro-E Aggregation Switch

2017-12-29 Thread Jerry Jones
Wait for the ACX5448 coming soon. On Dec 28, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Luke Guillory wrote: QFX5110-48S, 4x100 or 4x40 plus 48 SFP+ Sent from my iPad On Dec 28, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Lewis,Mitchell T. > wrote:

Re: Foundry FastIron

2017-12-29 Thread Mike O'Connor
:A client of mine has some Foundry FastIron Edge X424HFs. : :Brocade and Extreme don't seem overly ambitious to help. Brocade EOL'ed those old FESX-4 switches themselves on 03/31/2011, with EOS in 2016. This was before Brocadecom spun off to Extreme. :Anyone have any documentation they can

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-29 Thread sthaug
> > My wild guess is if we'd just waited a little bit longer to formalize > > IPng we'd've more seriously considered variable length addressing with > > a byte indicating how many octets in the address even if only 2 > > lengths were immediately implemented (4 and 16.) > > Actually, that got