RE: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Keith Medcalf
>Does anyone believe privacy etc will be enhanced by forbidding your >finding out who owns this domain you were directed towards by a >search engine? >Granted you may not get a satisfactory answer but then maybe you >choose not to do business with them, ok, your choice. >But what if the

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread bzs
On April 14, 2018 at 19:00 rube...@gmail.com (Rubens Kuhl) wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 6:46 PM, wrote: > > > GDPR only has jurisdiction over individuals who are citizens of > countries which are members of the EU. About 27 countries out of >

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread bzs
On April 14, 2018 at 17:29 nanog@nanog.org (Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG) wrote: > So why are you proposing that I can't run my *personal* "I strongly > believe in {insert emotionally-charged issue} site" without letting psychos > know exactly where I live? I wasn't the one proposing but GDPR

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 6:46 PM, wrote: > > GDPR only has jurisdiction over individuals who are citizens of > countries which are members of the EU. About 27 countries out of > almost 200 in this world. And companies which manage that data and are > also within the EU's

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 04/14/2018 02:46 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: So why not just have a checkmark at domain registration which asks whether you believe yourself to be within the EU's jurisdiction and, if so, no WHOIS publication for you, or very limited. FWIW, I've been reading quite a bit of (unverified)

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread bzs
GDPR only has jurisdiction over individuals who are citizens of countries which are members of the EU. About 27 countries out of almost 200 in this world. And companies which manage that data and are also within the EU's jurisdiction. But that jurisdiction arises from an individual's EU nation

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Filip Hruska
On 04/14/2018 07:24 PM, DaKnOb wrote: As far as IP Addresses go (and domains too), currently GDPR recognizes the rights of individuals, not companies, which means that a company can be in the whois query, since it does not have the right to privacy. My understanding is that this will only

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Filip Hruska
On 04/14/2018 07:29 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Filip Hruska: EURID (.eu) WHOIS already works on a basis that no information about the registrant is available via standard WHOIS. In order to get any useful information you have to go to https://whois.eurid.eu and make a request there. Seems

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 04/14/2018 10:24 AM, DaKnOb wrote: As far as IP Addresses go (and domains too), currently GDPR recognizes the rights of individuals, not companies, which means that a company can be in the whois query, since it does not have the right to privacy. My understanding is that this will only

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:24 PM, DaKnOb wrote: > As far as IP Addresses go (and domains too), currently GDPR recognizes the > rights of individuals, not companies, which means that a company can be in > the whois query, since it does not have the right to privacy. > > My

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
If you register a corp out of Nevada, the only person who gets to know the names of the owners is the company lawyer unless someone shows up with a warrant. It costs around $1,200 if I remember correctly. So I can spin up a legit looking company and put that info into whois and you essentially

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Filip Hruska: > EURID (.eu) WHOIS already works on a basis that no information about the > registrant is available via standard WHOIS. > In order to get any useful information you have to go to > https://whois.eurid.eu and make a request there. > > Seems like a reasonable solution. Why? How

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread DaKnOb
As far as IP Addresses go (and domains too), currently GDPR recognizes the rights of individuals, not companies, which means that a company can be in the whois query, since it does not have the right to privacy. My understanding is that this will only affect natural persons. > On 14 Apr 2018,

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Matt Harris
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > The only people served by restriction on WHOIS availability are abusers > and attackers, and the entities (e.g., registrars) who profit from them. > Not that whois data for domain names has been particularly useful for the

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 02:21:59PM +, Filip Hruska wrote: > EURID (.eu) WHOIS already works on a basis that no information about the > registrant is available via standard WHOIS. > In order to get any useful information you have to go to > https://whois.eurid.eu and make a request there. > >

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread DaKnOb
Currently .eu and .gr domains do not have any whois records. .eu makes them available online, but .gr is under a much stricter privacy law in Greece, and makes no whois records available to anyone. This has been so for years, and I can tell you of a few things / observations about this, since

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Filip Hruska wrote: > EURID (.eu) WHOIS already works on a basis that no information about the > registrant is available via standard WHOIS. > In order to get any useful information you have to go to > https://whois.eurid.eu and make a request

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Filip Hruska
EURID (.eu) WHOIS already works on a basis that no information about the registrant is available via standard WHOIS. In order to get any useful information you have to go to https://whois.eurid.eu and make a request there. Seems like a reasonable solution. -- Filip Hruska Linux System

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Brian Kantor wrote: > There is concern that the WHOIS database service will be in violation > of the new European GDPR which takes effect May 25th, and may have > to shut down. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/14/whois_icann_gdpr_europe/

Is WHOIS going to go away?

2018-04-14 Thread Brian Kantor
There is concern that the WHOIS database service will be in violation of the new European GDPR which takes effect May 25th, and may have to shut down. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/14/whois_icann_gdpr_europe/

Re: IPv4 and IPv6 hijacking by AS 6

2018-04-14 Thread Bjørn Mork
Randy Bush writes: >> I believe we've seen bogus low AS number announcements a few times >> before, and they've usually been caused by attemts to configure >> AS path prepending without understanding and/or reading the docs. >> >> Someone might have wrongly assumed that >> >>