Re: SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread John Osmon
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:54:05AM -0400, John R. Levine wrote: > >You *can* get a fax across a G.711 connection if your throughput, > > My SIP provider supports T.38. How much difference does that make? It can make a great deal of difference. You change the dynamics from:

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-30 Thread bzs
FWIW a German court has just ruled against ICANN's injunction and in favor of Tucows/EPAG. https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1

Re: SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread John R. Levine
You *can* get a fax across a G.711 connection if your throughput, My SIP provider supports T.38. How much difference does that make? Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail.

Re: SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread John Osmon
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:14:12PM -0400, John Levine wrote: [...FAX over IP...] > I don't really care if it's flaky. For one fax a month a few retries > are not a big deal. But hellofax's free 5 pages a month will probably > do the job. For folks that have made it this far, you might be

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-30 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >http://www.circleid.com/posts/20180527_icann_files_legal_action_against_domain_registrar_whois_data/ Elliot said that if he had to choose between fighting ICANN and fighting governments, he'd fight ICANN. I can't blame him.

Re: SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Have you considered paying the $0.50 per page to have the local copy >shop send the once-a-month faxes? Since the local copy shop is about a half hour drive from here, no. I don't really care if it's flaky. For one fax a month a few retries are not a big deal. But

ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-30 Thread Dan Hollis
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20180527_icann_files_legal_action_against_domain_registrar_whois_data/ -Dan

Re: SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
> On May 30, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Andrew Latham wrote: > > T.38 if your provider supports it > > Try https://github.com/hehol/t38modem > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:15 PM John R. Levine wrote: > >> Can anyone recommend software that sends faxes over SIP? I have plenty of >> inbound fax to

Re: SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 05/30/2018 01:13 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > Can anyone recommend software that sends faxes over SIP? No. Just NO. The problem is that all the modulation methods that FAX transmission use requires time stability in the analog channel, and there is no way that SIP is going to be that stable.

Re: SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread Andrew Latham
T.38 if your provider supports it Try https://github.com/hehol/t38modem On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:15 PM John R. Levine wrote: > Can anyone recommend software that sends faxes over SIP? I have plenty of > inbound fax to email services, but now and then I need to send a reply and > it looks

Re: SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread James R Cutler
> On May 30, 2018, at 4:13 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > > Can anyone recommend software that sends faxes over SIP? I have plenty of > inbound fax to email services, but now and then I need to send a reply and it > looks tacky to use one of the free web ones that put an ad on it. > > I know

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On 30/May/18 22:49, Ben Cannon wrote: > The reason you see one or two bars in inner cities in 2018, is that > given fixed spectrum, bandwidth on the aggregate can only increase if > you take many smaller lower power radios, and carpet the area with > them.   > > The only other solutions are

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* The whole concept of SSL all of the things is severely misplaced... and the thread I caught exemplifies why. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Keith Medcalf" To: nanog@nanog.org

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread Ben Cannon
The reason you see one or two bars in inner cities in 2018, is that given fixed spectrum, bandwidth on the aggregate can only increase if you take many smaller lower power radios, and carpet the area with them. The only other solutions are radically increase the power, or radically increase

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On 30/May/18 19:47, McBride, Mack wrote: > Scott hit the nail on the head. > > Hotel/café/mall wifi is generally horrible for the same reason urban > 4g is horrible. > Urban 4G in Africa isn't that bad, actually. The factors are many - not all users are on smart phones, or if they are, may

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread Ben Cannon
There are some interesting developments with sector (down to 30* or narrower) and multi-band, multi-radio, 4x4MIMO wifi gear lately. Ubiquiti is making amazing strides in this space. Watch 40k wifi connections in a stadium become the norm soon. I disagree entirely, and counter that the

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On 30/May/18 19:10, K. Scott Helms wrote: > Mark, > > A couple of things, first that kind of utilization isn't feasible once > penetration rates in dense areas reach certain levels.  There's a > reason that NTT Docomo moved more than 70% of their data traffic to > the 3.5 GHz band and that

SIP fax sending software?

2018-05-30 Thread John R. Levine
Can anyone recommend software that sends faxes over SIP? I have plenty of inbound fax to email services, but now and then I need to send a reply and it looks tacky to use one of the free web ones that put an ad on it. I know that if I wanted to pay $15/mo there are lots of lovely services

Re: Juniper BGP Convergence Time

2018-05-30 Thread Adam Kajtar
“I'm running two Juniper MX104s. Each MX has 1 ISP connected running BGP(full routes). iBGP is running between the routers via a two port 20G lag. When one of the ISPs fails, it can take upwards of 2 minutes for traffic to start flowing correctly. The router has the correct route in the routing

RE: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread McBride, Mack
Scott hit the nail on the head. Hotel/café/mall wifi is generally horrible for the same reason urban 4g is horrible. The backhaul and load on the available spectrum is usually excessive. Carrier wifi is usually (but not always) equipped with decent backhaul. However carrier wifi in stadiums

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread K. Scott Helms
Mark, A couple of things, first that kind of utilization isn't feasible once penetration rates in dense areas reach certain levels. There's a reason that NTT Docomo moved more than 70% of their data traffic to the 3.5 GHz band and that reason is that there's not (nor will there be) enough

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On 30/May/18 17:11, McBride, Mack wrote: > In high density urban areas last mile infrastructure (mostly copper) is > considerably better than 4G. > Localized carrier powered wifi is good as well but it is not and should not > be confused with 4G. I think it depends on what it is you're

RE: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread McBride, Mack
In high density urban areas last mile infrastructure (mostly copper) is considerably better than 4G. Localized carrier powered wifi is good as well but it is not and should not be confused with 4G. Mack -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ben

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

2018-05-30 Thread Ben Cannon
Thank you Mark for your excellent firsthand account. I’ve observed this - the developing world (better? Same meaning but hey) does not miss copper infrastructure. That was always bad and was always going to be bad now that 4G is here. There’s just zero reason now. It’s an anchor. -Ben > On

MVPN Question - profile 0

2018-05-30 Thread Hari .
Hey - One question on MVPN behavior. Will the PIM JOIN from the customer will be received on all the MVPN members - encapsulated MDT group. ? Can we expect to see the state in all the MDT members? Thought it will be seen only on RPF neighbor? In our scenario, the multicast VRF in PE should