Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

2018-10-07 Thread Randy Bush
> You just need to fire any contractor that allows a server with > sensitive data out to an unknown address on the Internet. Security > 101. 'cept the goal is not unemployed contractors

Re: v6 DNSSEC fail, was Buying IPv4 blocks

2018-10-07 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/7/18 11:47 PM, Naslund, Steve wrote: That is true provided that you accept that some people may not be able to respond without the packet getting fragmented due to tunneling or a million other reasons they may not support that MTU. Nonstandard MTU has always and seems will continue to

RE: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

2018-10-07 Thread Naslund, Steve
You just need to fire any contractor that allows a server with sensitive data out to an unknown address on the Internet. Security 101. Steven Naslund >From: Eric Kuhnke > >many contractors *do* have sensitive data on their networks with a gateway >out to the public Internet.

RE: v6 DNSSEC fail, was Buying IPv4 blocks

2018-10-07 Thread Naslund, Steve
>On 10/5/18 1:53 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > If you don’t want fragmented IPv6 UDP responses use > > server ::/0 { edns-udp-size 1232; }; > > That’s 1280 - IPv6 header - UDP header. Anything bigger than that can > theoretically be fragmented. You will then have to deal with PMTUD >

RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-07 Thread Naslund, Steve
A few cases come to mind. I also think there are lots of alerts that will not send people screaming into the streets. 9/11 did not really have that effect in most places and it took quite some time for word to spread to people who did not have full time media access. You also have to

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-07 Thread Randy Bush
> So I tend not to be in a big rush to look at those alerts, actually I > think I turned them off which in that case was an option. i turned them off long ago. i did get a presidential alert in november '16. turned out to be a very serious disaster. randy

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-07 Thread bzs
On October 7, 2018 at 15:49 fredbaker.i...@gmail.com (Fred Baker) wrote: > > > On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > > > That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult > > to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing > >

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-07 Thread Brian Kantor
On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was > difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing > impaired excepted.) _Wired_ has an interesting history of the various networked and standalone national

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-07 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/07/2018 03:49 PM, Fred Baker wrote: On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing impaired excepted.) Where I grew up, the “Civil Defense Warning”

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-07 Thread Fred Baker
> On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to > ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing > impaired excepted.) Where I grew up, the “Civil Defense Warning” was used for air raids, nuclear

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-07 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
Hopefully Google and Amazon product engineers are listening: EAS/NWS alert messages could come over your various devices to help the consumer... The NEST Protect smoke alarms would particularly be useful for NWS Alerts (i.e. they're loud and could broadcast "TORNADO! SEEK SHELTER IMMEDIATELY!")

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-07 Thread bzs
Re: EAS alert, people not being reached That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing impaired excepted.) I recall in NYC as a kid you were expected (maybe legally required, not sure) to head off the streets

Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

2018-10-07 Thread Pete Carah
On 10/04/2018 03:13 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: --- eric.kuh...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric Kuhnke many contractors *do* have sensitive data on their networks with a gateway out to the public Internet. I could definitely imagine that happening. scott