Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-08 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: Google solved these problems with ~$120 smoke alarm and a decent cell phone app. If they released a new version with weather alerts, I wouldn't think twice about dropping $200 on it. A company already made a combination smoke alarm/weather radio.

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-08 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:54 AM Sean Donelan wrote: > There is no business case for Amazon, Apple or Google to include emergency > alerts as part of their smart speakers. I have a $50 weather alert radio. Does it have have batteries? Are they charged? Are they almost dead? When did I last

RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-08 Thread bzs
On October 8, 2018 at 16:37 s...@donelan.com (Sean Donelan) wrote: > A nation-wide WEA and EAS system helps warn people in both cities and > rural areas. But they still depend on carriers and broadcasters. If there > are no backup batteries in cell towers, or backup transmitters for >

RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-08 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018, b...@theworld.com wrote: I suppose since every life is precious one can measure the effectiveness based on "land mass" but then one wonders if some sheep out in a field in Idaho really care that the US was just invaded...put better: You do what you can! How quickly we

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-08 Thread Nate Metheny
Just as a small point of contention, if you lose the bread basket and the agricultural industries, you might as well have never received an emergency alert in a city where the supplies and fresh food will run out and people will be fighting and killing each other for a Snickers bar. No good

RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-08 Thread bzs
On October 8, 2018 at 03:37 snasl...@medline.com (Naslund, Steve) wrote: > A few cases come to mind. I also think there are lots of alerts > that will not send people screaming into the streets. 9/11 did not > really have that effect in most places and it took quite some time > for word

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

2018-10-08 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 6 Oct 2018, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Since there isn't infinite money to build a system that will reach *everybody*, the only reasonable approach is to cobble together a set of overlapping systems on existing technology that covers the most people while staying inside the funding

Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

2018-10-08 Thread Daniel Taylor
The risks of VPN aren't in the VPN itself, they are in the continuous network connection architecture. 90%+ of VPN interconnects could be handled cleanly, safely, and reliably using HTTPS, without having to get internal network administration involved at all. And the risks of key exposure

Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

2018-10-08 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 08:53:55 -0500, Daniel Taylor said: > Especially when you have companies out there that consider VPN a > reasonable way to handle secure data transfer cross-connects with > vendors or clients. At some point, you get to balance any inherent security problems with the concept of

Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

2018-10-08 Thread Daniel Taylor
That would be one way, but a lot of the problem is unplanned cross-access. It's (relatively) easy to isolate network permissions and access at a single location, but once you have multi-site configurations it gets more complex. Especially when you have companies out there that consider VPN a