Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Do you have sources for the ~90% T-Mobile IPv6? Not arguing, but to use that as a source myself when spreading the IPv6 good word. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jared

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Martin Hannigan
Jeffrey, Thanks. A good start, but under-scoped. When you are purchasing IP number blocks whatever source you use; a marketplace, a broker, a single source should provide you with a compelling history on a number block REPUTATION that includes all the attributes listed below and then some. Some

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 8:20 AM Torres, Matt via NANOG wrote: > due diligence research on an IPv4 block [...] what results from those checks should cause us to walk away? Hi Matt, I think it also depends on your intended use. If you want a flawlessly clean block you can use for anything, you'll

DirecTV Streaming

2019-04-03 Thread Fawcett, Nick via NANOG
Does anyone know what IP to Geo database provider DirectTV uses for their streaming platform? Nick -- Checked by SOPHOS http://www.sophos.com

RE: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Jeffrey Hathaway via NANOG
Hi, While I think #3 is important, it depends on your use of the end-block, and those entries can sometimes be cleaned up with some work. If the block is listed, that would certainly lower my buying price I am willing to pay for the block. I did buy a block once in the ARIN region which

Deutsche Telecom AS3320 contact

2019-04-03 Thread Andrey Kostin
Hi NANOG, Looking for a contact from AS3320 Deutsche Telekom to ask a question about their routing policy/filtering causing that some globally routed prefixes aren't seen in AS3320. Kind regards, Andrey Kostin

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Nikolas Geyer
The issue isn’t with Spamhaus itself per se, more providers who implement automated edge filters based on those lists and then take a long time to get removed manually. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Eric Dugas mailto:edu...@unknowndevice.ca>> wrote: I cleaned two blocks

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Eric Dugas
I cleaned two blocks last year with Spamhaus and others. Took me less than two weeks and Spamhaus were the quickest of the bunch (we're talking about a full or two business days). PSN can be tricky, same for Netflix and whatnot but I always put these new blocks in "quarantine" for a couple of

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Nikolas Geyer
A big +1 to checking Spamhaus, specifically their DROP and EDROP lists. These two lists are what causes us most pain when acquiring IPv4 space as a lot of providers put auto blocking in place based on these two which can be difficult to get removed. I won’t even contemplate prefixes on either

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Apr 3, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > > On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 11:58:23 -0400, Jared Mauch said: > >> Mostly curious if you are doing IPv6 if you see that slowing your need for v4 >> or if they are growing at the same rate. > > And remember kids - the more you can push off

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 11:58:23 -0400, Jared Mauch said: > Mostly curious if you are doing IPv6 if you see that slowing your need for v4 > or if they are growing at the same rate. And remember kids - the more you can push off to native IPv6, the longer you can push off an upgrade to your CGNAT box.

Re: modeling residential subscriber bandwidth demand

2019-04-03 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 03:45:17AM -0400, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 23:53:06 -0700, Ben Cannon said: > > A 100/100 enterprise connection can easily support hundreds of desktop > > users > > if not more. It???s a lot of bandwidth even today. > > And what happens when a

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Torres, Matt via NANOG wrote: > > All, > Side stepping a migration to IPv6 debate…. I’d like to hear advise from the > group about performing due diligence research on an IPv4 block before > purchasing it on the secondary market (on behalf of an end-user

RE: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Sam Roche
I used this gentleman’s Powershell script and modified it slightly to check a block last summer. The broker we were using said that they also did their due diligence on the addresses, but I wanted to do our own because of the cost of the IPs.

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 15:20:17 -, "Torres, Matt via NANOG" said: > 3. Check SORBS blacklisting. It should not show up except maybe the DUHL > list(?). If it does, walk away. SORBS isn't the only place to check. As an example, if Spamhaus doesn't have nice things to say about the block,

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Matt Harris
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:34 AM John Alcock wrote: > Well, > > I did all three above and still had issues. I am still having issues. I > had to contact many people to get off of various blacklists, etc. These > are lists that are not publish and you will not know until you start using > the

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread John Alcock
Well, I did all three above and still had issues. I am still having issues. I had to contact many people to get off of various blacklists, etc. These are lists that are not publish and you will not know until you start using the space. Luckily, I have had great help from the list here in

Re: SOLVED (was Re: request for help: 192.139.135.0/24)

2019-04-03 Thread Job Snijders
Hi all, On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 10:59:18AM -0400, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > I urge folks facing similar problems to publish RPKI ROAs for their IP > resources. [snip] the verifiable statements in RPKI ROAs can be > attributed to you as the actual resource holder, thus helping folks > base their

Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Torres, Matt via NANOG
All, Side stepping a migration to IPv6 debate I'd like to hear advise from the group about performing due diligence research on an IPv4 block before purchasing it on the secondary market (on behalf of an end-user company). My research has branched into two questions: a) What 'checks' should

SOLVED (was Re: request for help: 192.139.135.0/24)

2019-04-03 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
Hi nanog, With help from China Unicom (as4837) and from folks in other key places around the 'net, I am happy to report that this route mis-origination has now been successfully resolved. Thanks, all! I urge folks facing similar problems to publish RPKI ROAs for their IP resources. I started

Re: modeling residential subscriber bandwidth demand

2019-04-03 Thread Paul Nash
I am also surprised. However, we have had a total of 5 complaints about network speed over a 3 year period. One possible reason is that because they own the infrastructure collectively and pay for the bandwidth directly (I just manage everything for them), they are prepared to put up with

Contact Request: Gannett

2019-04-03 Thread Ed Whitesell
Greetings - If there is anyone from Gannett on the list, I'd appreciate it if you would reach out. You've got some Route53 monitoring traffic directed at one of our AWS ELBs. Thanks, Ed

Re: modeling residential subscriber bandwidth demand

2019-04-03 Thread Darin Steffl
Paul, I have hard time seeing how you aren't maxing out that circuit. We see about 2.3 mbps average per customer at peak with a primarily residential user base. That would about 575 mbps average at peak for 250 users on our network so how do we use 575 but you say your users don't even top 100

Re: modeling residential subscriber bandwidth demand

2019-04-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 23:53:06 -0700, Ben Cannon said: > A 100/100 enterprise connection can easily support hundreds of desktop users > if not more. It’s a lot of bandwidth even today. And what happens when a significant fraction of those users fire up Netflix with an HD stream? We're

Re: modeling residential subscriber bandwidth demand

2019-04-03 Thread Ben Cannon
A 100/100 enterprise connection can easily support hundreds of desktop users if not more. It’s a lot of bandwidth even today. -Ben > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019, Paul Nash wrote: >> >> FWIW, I have a 250 subscribers sitting on a 100M fiber