Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet

2019-08-04 Thread Ryan Hamel
> could network operators do anything to make these sites “not so easy” to be > found, reached, and used to end innocent lives? Nope. If they follow the word of the providers and services they use, there is no reason to terminate the service. CloudFlare terminating 8chan's service was a one

What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet

2019-08-04 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Ok, two mass shootings, touchy topic, lots of emotions this weekend. Going straight to the point. Most of us who operate internet services believe in not being the moderator of internet. We provide a service and that’s it. Obviously there are some established laws around protecting copyrights,

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-04 Thread Masataka Ohta
Valdis Kletnieks wrote: -> Of course, everything has good and bad things, but with NAT444 you need to do the same, With static port range assignment, we don't have to. So you're going to say what ports the users are forced to use... Like DHCP, yes. So? Only users know what applications

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-04 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 06:42:30 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote: > > A problem of dynamic sharing is that logging information to be used > > for such purposes as crime investigation becomes huge. > > > -> Of course, everything has good and bad things, but with NAT444

Re: Xfinity with IPv6 clue?

2019-08-04 Thread Ross Tajvar
Did you get in touch with someone? What was the problem? On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 9:50 PM Janet Sullivan wrote: > Nanog is magical. I have working IPv6 now. > > > > *From:* Janet Sullivan > *Sent:* Sunday, August 4, 2019 6:29 PM > *To:* 'nanog@nanog.org' > *Subject:* Xfinity with IPv6 clue? > > >

RE: Xfinity with IPv6 clue?

2019-08-04 Thread Janet Sullivan
Nanog is magical. I have working IPv6 now. From: Janet Sullivan Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 6:29 PM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: Xfinity with IPv6 clue? I hate resorting to NANOG, but I've spent over 5 hours on the phone with Xfinity the past two days, and I can't seem to get someone who

RE: MAP-E

2019-08-04 Thread Philip Loenneker
Moving away from the discussion around what technology people may choose to go with, and instead what CPEs may be suitable... I know this is 464XLAT rather than MAP-E that was originally requested, but recent versions of D-Link firmware, eg for the DVA-2800, include the CLAT functionality. My

Xfinity with IPv6 clue?

2019-08-04 Thread Janet Sullivan
I hate resorting to NANOG, but I've spent over 5 hours on the phone with Xfinity the past two days, and I can't seem to get someone who understands my problem. I do not have working IPv6 - I do not get an address or PD. I have working IPv4. Xfinity wanted to blame this on my modem, so I went

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-04 Thread Masataka Ohta
Baldur Norddahl wrote: Or the case of Playstation network. Yes they WILL blacklist your CGN just the same as they can blacklist a shared MAP ip address. Except it affects more users. If IP address sharing by blocks of ports becomes common and there is typical block size (say, 1024),

Re: [nanog] Cisco GLBP/HSRP question -- Has it ever been dis

2019-08-04 Thread Chriztoffer Hansen
cyrus, cyrus ramirez wrote on 04/08/2019 21:40: If you're looking for vendor neutral FHRP, VRRP has RFC documentation. GLBP and HSRP are Cisco proprietary protocols and are protected information other than the study material and how too out there. The thing about the study material I know

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-04 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:30 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > > > which again is not the case for 464XLAT/NAT64. Each user gets > > automatically as many ports as he needs at every moment. > > Unless all the ports are used up. > > -> That's right, but you

Re: MAP-E

2019-08-04 Thread Masataka Ohta
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote: A problem of dynamic sharing is that logging information to be used for such purposes as crime investigation becomes huge. -> Of course, everything has good and bad things, but with NAT444 you need to do the same, With static port range assignment, we

Re: Best ways to ensure redundancy with no terrestrial ISPs

2019-08-04 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Keith, thank you for your response, I think this is slightly becoming offtopic, I will take this offlist with you but in short, that's not how GeoServer works (or mainly GIS when displaying things publicly) for something to be displayed to you, it needs to make it available, and if it's available

RE: Best ways to ensure redundancy with no terrestrial ISPs

2019-08-04 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Sunday, 4 August, 2019 12:20, Mehmet Akcin wrote: >I understand and share your frustration about forcing account >registration. We had no other way but to implement this as constantly >we had sources trying to download our data by examining our code. By >having access controls we were able

Re: [nanog] Cisco GLBP/HSRP question -- Has it ever been dis

2019-08-04 Thread cyrus ramirez via NANOG
If you're looking for vendor neutral FHRP, VRRP has RFC documentation. GLBP and HSRP are Cisco proprietary protocols and are protected information other than the study material and how too out there. Cyrus Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 10:19 AM, Chriztoffer Hansen

Re: Best ways to ensure redundancy with no terrestrial ISPs

2019-08-04 Thread Mehmet Akcin
thank you for the feedback. It's quite challenging to keep a high scale, open, a free platform without having ads, they are designed to be easily closed and should you have problem with it, I am happy to help understand and hear recommendations. I understand and share your frustration about

Re: Puerto Rico Internet Exchange

2019-08-04 Thread Mehmet Akcin
thank you for reaching out offlist. We've received our core switching hardware (thank you Arista for donating these) and identified 5-7 potential different sites which we can be colocated, however, we will start with two that are diversely connected with each other. somewhere others can go deploy

Re: Best ways to ensure redundancy with no terrestrial ISPs

2019-08-04 Thread Fred Baker
Between overlaid ads and the thing trying to force an account, i’d Describe it as a waste of time. Now, a page that delivered the data advertised... Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways... > On Aug 3, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > >  > Feel free to open

Re: Spam due to new ARIN allocation

2019-08-04 Thread Tim Burke
Done, Sir. Thanks. Tim Burke t...@burke.us On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42 PM, John Curran wrote: > Tim - > > When you have moment, could you forward both of those Whois spam messages to > complia...@arin.net ? > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for

Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?)

2019-08-04 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 5:17 AM Scott Christopher wrote: > John Curran wrote: > > ... > > As I have noted previously, I have zero doubt in the enforceability of the > ARIN registration services agreements in this regard – so please carefully > consider proposed policy both from the overall

Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?)

2019-08-04 Thread John Curran
On 4 Aug 2019, at 4:16 AM, Scott Christopher mailto:s...@ottie.org>> wrote: ... What I have been saying is that if ARIN revoked Amazon's resources because of a trivial matter of bounced Abuse PoC, even if the small "community" of network operators and other interested parties passed a rule

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-04 Thread Brandon Martin
On 8/4/19 3:27 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: For shorter runs, I think it's cheaper to find dark fibre and do something yourself. This was a bit of an unusual situation. One end it rather rural. The only fiber within miles was one semi-independent operator, the area RBOC, and Comcast. The

Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?)

2019-08-04 Thread Scott Christopher
John Curran wrote: ... > As I have noted previously, I have zero doubt in the enforceability of the > ARIN registration services agreements in this regard – so please carefully > consider proposed policy both from the overall community benefit being > sought, and from the implications faced

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-04 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale
A friend of mine whom I rely upon took it upon himself to put my question to a reliable contact of his. In the hope of adding some value to this thread, I'm reproducing this exchange with their names removed, in descending chronological order (latest first, earliest last). Academic in the US:It’s

Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?)

2019-08-04 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 1:25 AM Joe Provo wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 04:02:58PM +0300, T??ma Gavrichenkov wrote: > I think they will be planning to reach out to ARIN with the same text > > right after the RIPE process ends this way or another. > > Uh, ARIN-2019-5 has been in the ARIN PDP

Re: The future of transport in the metro area

2019-08-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On 4/Aug/19 02:16, Brandon Martin wrote: >   > > Those are definitely longer distances than I was inquiring about.  I > was asking for distances in the range of more like 100km. For shorter runs, I think it's cheaper to find dark fibre and do something yourself. Mark.

Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?)

2019-08-04 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 8/3/19 9:15 PM, John Curran wrote: > As I have noted previously, I have zero doubt in the enforceability > of the ARIN registration services agreements in this regard – so > please carefully consider proposed policy both from the overall > community benefit being sought, and from the