Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-04 Thread Matthew Petach
On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 19:05 Kaiser, Erich wrote: > Lets talk Akamai > [...] > The last two nights the traffic levels to them has skyrocketed as well. > > Any insight? > > > Erich Kaiser > The Fusion Network > As a CDN, I would usually expect to see traffic *from* Akamai to be the large

RE: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Wednesday, 4 December, 2019 23:24, b...@theworld.com wrote: >But that's ok, the new masters of this universe will just charge both >ends for each and every email (perhaps a few included free with your >Hulu or Netflix subscription) and old timers will talk about how great >it was back in the

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread bzs
25 years or so from now when the internet is basically a big CATV-like service someone will write a book about how "SPAM Ate The Internet". And a few other things, among them: Phase II: Ham Eats The Internet. Now that every marcom, billing, etc dept and their pet dog has figured out they can

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-04 Thread craig washington
I don't have any insight but can confirm I am seeing the same thing. (Traffic shift back onto transit links) They did tell me they were having some bandwidth issues and are working on it. I am currently awaiting a direct PNI with them but haven't heard from them in some time.

Re: virginia beach

2019-12-04 Thread Mehmet Akcin
is there any limitation of where an SLTE can be placed in terms of distance from PFE? I have looked in to usual palaces and i was unable to confirm there is any requirements for any distance. Any cons can you guys think of that you want to share would be appreciated. here are places I have

Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-04 Thread Kaiser, Erich
Lets talk Akamai They have shifted 90% of their traffic off IXs and onto our full route DIA, anyone else seeing this issue or have insight as to what is going on over there? We have been asking for help on resolution for weeks and all we get is we are working on it and now we get no response.

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-04 Thread Jennifer Rexford
SDN is definitely an overloaded and confusing term that is used inconsistently. Here are a few attempts to explain: - “The Road to SDN: An Intellectual History of Programmable Networks” (ACM Queue, December 2013) https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2560327

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread George Michaelson
I own domains backed by gsuite/postini and they are awesomely spam free, and good. What I say here shouldn't be taken as saying I don't want that goodness. I also work in domains which routinely get mis-tagged as spammy by google, and that can include replying to google staffers. This isn't good.

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 15:12, John Levine wrote: > > In article > you > write: > >Google still rejects email from my own domain name as outlined in a > >prior message on this list a month or two ago: > > Google accepts my mail just fine, including from my mailing lists. > Their goal is to make

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 16:43, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 17:39, John R. Levine wrote: >> >> >> Or maybe users are tired of the useless monthly messages and report them >> as spam. > > > Again, these are not a user messages or regular list traffic, they're >

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 17:39, John R. Levine wrote: > > Or maybe users are tired of the useless monthly messages and report them > as spam. > Again, these are not a user messages or regular list traffic, they're admin/moderator messages addressed to an admin of a list. Your point about the

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread John R. Levine
Someone up-thread noted that my personal domain is hosted on google groups. I've noticed in the past that the behaviour of gmail.com can be very different from the behaviour of a paid mail domain like mine... Google says that every user's spam filtering is different. It's not just free vs.

Re: Comcast & NTT packet loss today

2019-12-04 Thread Ben Cannon
I’ll Just pop in here to echo Randy’s comments - we have great experiences with NTT across the board and they did reach out and resolve the issue. -Ben > On Dec 4, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > >  >> >>> just to say that they are awesome >> so, uh, you don't recommend them to your

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 16:38, John R. Levine wrote: > > Though I agree that Gmail spam filtering is top grade, or close to be so, > > it still sends to spam a statistically significant number of emails from > > IETF and ICANN mailing lists I'm subscribed to. It depends as well on > > which

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread John R. Levine
Though I agree that Gmail spam filtering is top grade, or close to be so, it still sends to spam a statistically significant number of emails from IETF and ICANN mailing lists I'm subscribed to. It depends as well on which account I should receive those emails. Yes, that's mostly the DMARC

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, Though I agree that Gmail spam filtering is top grade, or close to be so, it still sends to spam a statistically significant number of emails from IETF and ICANN mailing lists I'm subscribed to. It depends as well on which account I should receive those emails. While I understand and

Re: Comcast & NTT packet loss today

2019-12-04 Thread Randy Bush
>> just to say that they are awesome > so, uh, you don't recommend them to your competitors then? no way. my competitors should buy from comcast, he, ...

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Google still rejects email from my own domain name as outlined in a >prior message on this list a month or two ago: Google accepts my mail just fine, including from my mailing lists. Their goal is to make their users happy by accepting the mail the users want and not the

Re: Comcast & NTT packet loss today

2019-12-04 Thread Nick Hilliard
Randy Bush wrote on 04/12/2019 21:05: just to say that they are awesome so, uh, you don't recommend them to your competitors then? Nick

Re: Comcast & NTT packet loss today

2019-12-04 Thread Randy Bush
> This may be a good moment to mention that the excellent people at the > NTT NOC are always available at n...@ntt.net, or the phone numbers > listed in PeeringDB. :-) just to say that they are awesome

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-04 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
I think at this point we should upgrade the classification of this issue from being Spam-filter-related to being a fundamental interoperability issue of Google Mail and G Suite with regards to email and SMTP. Google has a monopoly on corporate email nowadays (even OPs own domain name is still

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-04 Thread Tom Beecher
SDN originally meant 'separate the forwarding plane from the control plane, and do wacky stuff with the CP'. It's been applied over the years as a nice buzzwordy marketing term for just about anything that involves software interacting with network hardware in any way. Not correct of course, but

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-04 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 17:56:10 +, Rod Beck said: > Can someone explain what is all the fuss? SDN is like the latest telecom > craze but the articles do a poor job of explaining the advantages. I seek > concrete examples. It's called the "cycle of reincarnation". Way back when, a "router" was

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-04 Thread Ryan Landry
"SDN" is a broad brush. Here's a "concrete example" of using software to do interesting network tricks. I'm biased, of course. https://www.fastly.com/blog/building-and-scaling-fastly-network-part-1-fighting-fib

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-04 Thread Owen DeLong
Ask 5 experts and you will get at least 8 definitions. It’s a very loosely defined buzzword that encompasses a variety of technologies. It’s the latest ill-defined term following cloud computing. Owen > On Dec 4, 2019, at 09:56 , Rod Beck wrote: > > Can someone explain what is all the fuss?

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-04 Thread Ishmael Rufus
You can start by taking a look at Openflow which embraces the SDN concept. On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:57 AM Rod Beck wrote: > Can someone explain what is all the fuss? SDN is like the latest telecom > craze but the articles do a poor job of explaining the advantages. I seek > concrete examples.

Re: Recommended DDoS mitigation appliance?

2019-12-04 Thread Rabbi Rob Thomas
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Software Defined Networks

2019-12-04 Thread Rod Beck
Can someone explain what is all the fuss? SDN is like the latest telecom craze but the articles do a poor job of explaining the advantages. I seek concrete examples. Regards, Roderick. Roderick Beck VP of Business Development United Cable Company

Re: CBS Geolocation

2019-12-04 Thread Mike Hammett
If you find out, let me know so I can update my web site: http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Richard Laager" To:

CBS Geolocation

2019-12-04 Thread Richard Laager
Does anyone have a contact at CBS, or know which geolocation service they use for cbs.com TV streaming? CBS has recently started mis-geolocating us as being in Canada. -- Richard

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-04 Thread Aled Morris via NANOG
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 14:43, Randy Bush wrote: > > Why does a new organisation need to have any global IPv4 addresses of > > their own at all? > > if all folk saying such things would make their in- and out-bound mail > servers v6-only, it would reduce confusion in this area. > > randy >