RE: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Don Gould
This is a very short term problem. The market is going to fill with battery storage sooner rather than later. Solar is just exploding. Your car will "house tie".6G will solve your data problem. D-- Don Gould5 Cargill PlaceRichmondChristchurch, New ZealandMobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 22:08, Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 12/25/19 7:26 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > > > I'm an ex-California resident myself here > > Good riddance. This has nothing to do with the climate change that is > actually happening here. > > Mike > Well, enjoy your climate

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Michael Thomas
On 12/25/19 7:26 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: I'm an ex-California resident myself here Good riddance. This has nothing to do with the climate change that is actually happening here. Mike

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Michael Thomas
On 12/25/19 7:10 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote: On 12/25/19 6:29 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: Yes, this is exactly right. My point here isn't to assign blame, but to ask what the hell we're going to do about it. Trying to score political points is disgusting. Do you live in California? Yes.

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 20:29, Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 12/25/19 6:16 PM, Michael Loftis wrote: > > > > Having lived through the blackouts that was entirely different. 90% Enron > manipulating the markets. There was plenty of capacity both in transmission > and generation, but Enron

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 12/25/19 6:29 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: Yes, this is exactly right. My point here isn't to assign blame, but to ask what the hell we're going to do about it. Trying to score political points is disgusting. Do you live in California? Do you have your business in California? Take a look at

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Michael Thomas
On 12/25/19 6:16 PM, Michael Loftis wrote: Having lived through the blackouts that was entirely different. 90% Enron manipulating the markets. There was plenty of capacity both in transmission and generation, but Enron manipulated prices and apparent supply to make money and screwed the

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Michael Thomas
On 12/25/19 5:59 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 19:32, Michael Thomas > wrote: On the dark side, this is probably coming to a lot more states and countries due to climate change. Australia. Sigh. Do you have a source for this?  It would

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Michael Loftis
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 19:00 Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 19:32, Michael Thomas wrote: > >> On the dark side, this is probably coming to a lot more states and >> countries due to climate change. Australia. Sigh. >> > > Do you have a source for this? It would seem

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 19:32, Michael Thomas wrote: > On the dark side, this is probably coming to a lot more states and > countries due to climate change. Australia. Sigh. > Do you have a source for this? It would seem that these power issues are rather unique to California not because of

power to the internet

2019-12-25 Thread Michael Thomas
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/25/california-power-shutoffs-089678 This article details some of the issues with California's "new reality" of planned blackouts. One of the big things that came to light with these blackouts is that our network infrastructure's resilience is pretty

Re: BGP/dDos gift from NIST

2019-12-25 Thread Ben Cannon
I’m not getting my AS number tattooed on my wrist for a “little” i in Internet. Lol. -Ben > On Dec 25, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Royce Williams wrote: > >  >> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 1:15 AM william manning >> wrote: > >> https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-189.pdf

Re: BGP/dDos gift from NIST

2019-12-25 Thread Royce Williams
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 1:15 AM william manning wrote: > https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-189.pdf > I can't speak to the technical content, but this put a curdle in my morning coffee: "... that comprise the internet [sic]" . Et tu, NIST? I will die on this

BGP/dDos gift from NIST

2019-12-25 Thread william manning
Thanks Doug. https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-189.pdf /Wm