> This time it’s PG all alone, but still fallout from back then. Too much
> liability and they’ve not maintained the infrastructure and so they decided
> that to reduce the liability costs it’s cheaper to blackout. Same story again
> different colors. PG making a mint while people get screwed
Hi Brandon,
I agree with lots of what you wrote, here's some more thoughts
tl;dr
Batteries from cars will fix your issues along with smart guys just
wanting to get the job done.
WHO AM I?!
I am a coms tech. I have been on this list for ~20 years.
My job is simply to look at the
On 12/26/19 4:06 PM, John Levine wrote:
In article you write:
run but are now showing their long term consequences, notably land use
that encourages sprawl and construction in ill-suited areas
If we stopped construction in all of the ill-suited areas, we'd stop
construction all together,
In article you write:
>> run but are now showing their long term consequences, notably land use
>> that encourages sprawl and construction in ill-suited areas
>
>If we stopped construction in all of the ill-suited areas, we'd stop
>construction all together, and tear down much more. We have it
On Thu Dec 26, 2019 at 11:20:01AM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote:
> I just looked up Telsa's battery packs and they seem to be between
> 60-100kwh. Our daily use is about 30kwh in the fall, so it's only 2-3
> days. Admittedly we can turn off the hot tub, water heater, etc to
> stretch it out. And
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 13:19, Stephen Satchell wrote:
> Longer term, review your backhauls and interconnects. Dark fiber would
> be preferred here, because you would be controlling backup power at both
> ends, and not depending on intermediate nodes.
>
What about the NSA taps? Do they tap the
>I just looked up Telsa's battery packs and they seem to be between
>60-100kwh. Our daily use is about 30kwh in the fall, so it's only 2-3
>days. Admittedly we can turn off the hot tub, water heater, etc to
>stretch it out. And of course, that means that you can't drive it... The
>one thing that
On 12/26/19 11:18 AM, John Levine wrote:
In article
you write:
To reanswer the question posed though, is still the same ; $$$. If network
operators take the position that the electric utility supply should be more
reliable than it is, then they need to start influencing and lobbying for
On 12/26/19 11:18 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote:
On 12/26/19 10:55 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:
Here in California, you're going to need a lot more than 8 hours. We
had one that lasted 3 days, followed by about 8 hours of power,
followed by 2 days of no power. If this is the new normal, and I'm
AT land line had service trucks parked at RT’s to power them. I talked
with one of the techs. He was on a 12 hour schedule and spent that time
between 3 sites charging the batteries to keep the copper plant running.
They plugged in to the truck inverter and ran the truck all day. He told me
they
On 12/26/19 11:00 AM, Ben Cannon wrote:
How much generating capacity can you get out of a typical hybrid?
You’re joking right? A lot… Enough to run an entire neighborhood…
The Prius makes 50,000watts alone.
With the right circuitry, there is no need for power plants in the
United
In article
you write:
>To reanswer the question posed though, is still the same ; $$$. If network
>operators take the position that the electric utility supply should be more
>reliable than it is, then they need to start influencing and lobbying for
>ways for that to happen. If not, they will
On 12/26/19 10:55 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:
Here in California, you're going to need a lot more than 8 hours. We had
one that lasted 3 days, followed by about 8 hours of power, followed by
2 days of no power. If this is the new normal, and I'm afraid that it
is, that's probably going to
> How much generating capacity can you get out of a typical hybrid?
You’re joking right? A lot… Enough to run an entire neighborhood… The Prius
makes 50,000watts alone.
With the right circuitry, there is no need for power plants in the United
States (save that they’re more efficient than
On 12/26/19 10:41 AM, Ben Cannon wrote:
Exactly. And we will build it all.
The power stuff is serious people. We’ve gotten letters from the FCC
over it. There is additional regulation coming down when people can’t
call 911!
You need at minimum 8 hours (or your CRT response time with a
On 12/26/19 10:26 AM, Tom Beecher wrote:
If that was a reference to my comments, it was certainly not my
intention. I was striving to avoid it being seen as that, but
apparently fell short.
Not directed at you at all.
To reanswer the question posed though, is still the same ; $$$. If
Exactly. And we will build it all.
The power stuff is serious people. We’ve gotten letters from the FCC over it.
There is additional regulation coming down when people can’t call 911!
You need at minimum 8 hours (or your CRT response time with a generator
trailer, or a standby generator or
On 12/26/19 10:19 AM, Jason Wilson wrote:
As a small WISP operator in Northern California and well into the
urban interface we fell victim to the PSPS this year. Thousands was
spent on upgrading battery plants that would normally hold during a
short outage and generator purchases, whether it
If that was a reference to my comments, it was certainly not my intention.
I was striving to avoid it being seen as that, but apparently fell short.
To reanswer the question posed though, is still the same ; $$$. If network
operators take the position that the electric utility supply should be
As a small WISP operator in Northern California and well into the urban
interface we fell victim to the PSPS this year. Thousands was spent on
upgrading battery plants that would normally hold during a short outage and
generator purchases, whether it be small inverter style generators for
small
On 12/26/19 7:51 AM, Mike Bolitho wrote:
I'm pretty sure political bickering is well beyond the scope of the
mailing list. Is anyone moderating this?
It certainly wasn't my intent or desire to have this turn political, and
shame on the person who did. This is a serious networking related
I'm pretty sure political bickering is well beyond the scope of the mailing
list. Is anyone moderating this?
- Mike Bolitho
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:20 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
> Same story again different colors. PG making a mint while people get
>> screwed
>>
>
> I'm not quite sure that's an
>
> Same story again different colors. PG making a mint while people get
> screwed
>
I'm not quite sure that's an accurate statement.
In 2000-2001, PG got screwed by Enron's market manipulation. ( Good job
those who pushed so hard for deregulation of public utility services! )
PG is currently
Unless telecom infrastructure has been diligently changing out the lead
acid battery approach at all their remote terminals, powered gpon, hfc
and antennae plants will never last more than minutes. If at all.
A traditional car has between a 100-200amp alternator @12volts
How much generating
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