Re: power to the internet

2019-12-28 Thread Joe Maimon
They are quite lacking in longevity and density. Which is fine if you have enough space and adequate maintenance to change them out and they are only a bridge for local generation. Remote installations do not typically have these characteristics. Pretty much every basement mux or other RT

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-28 Thread Ben Cannon
-48VDC is extremely reliable, we have also never had a power incursion on our DC plant. Any of them. I’m not sure I’d consider it cheap, but it’s not horrifying expensive and it *works* when you deploy enough of it in a 2 or 3N fashion. -Ben > On Dec 28, 2019, at 9:04 AM, Baldur Norddahl >

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-28 Thread Tom Beecher
To be hyper pedantic, lithium / li-on batteries are recyclable. It’s just not being done today on a substantive scale today for mostly economic reasons. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 14:51 Dan Hollis wrote: > Nothing. > > It is extremely cheap, extremely durable, and nearly 100% recyclable. All > the

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Thank you Chris, and I really appreciate the information I have received so far. Apologies everyone for the noise. Terrance On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:47 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > I'm going to bet that: > 1) the docs at ARIN talk about all you need to do to get this mission >

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-28 Thread Dan Hollis
Nothing. It is extremely cheap, extremely durable, and nearly 100% recyclable. All the things lithium is not. The only thing is lead acid is not power dense, but that is not generally a problem at sites. -Dan On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Baldur Norddahl wrote: What is wrong with lead acid

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
I'm going to bet that: 1) the docs at ARIN talk about all you need to do to get this mission accomplished 2) questions to the hostmaster/registration-services-desk will also get all of these questions answered 3) taking up 10k+ people's time on what is solved with the above 2 things isn't

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Pennington, Scott
Hi Terrance. I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of dual BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers. Get Outlook for Android From: Terrance Devor Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM To:

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Hello Scott, That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Kaiser, Erich
I think I am feeling sour about having to do the entire process all over again LOL. Just looked at doc and it is very similar to old required info. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:37 PM Kaiser, Erich wrote: > Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest >

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Darin Steffl
I feel it's the same now as it was 5 years ago. Same spreadsheet and justification as years ago. I just got a /22 yesterday and it was no different from an ARIN allocation to a purchase and transfer. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 12:37 PM Kaiser, Erich wrote: > Yes been doing it for years but seems to

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Kaiser, Erich
Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott < scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote: > This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Pennington, Scott
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately transfer even from an auction. Get Outlook for Android From: NANOG on behalf of Kaiser, Erich Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM To: Darin Steffl Cc:

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Kaiser, Erich
They have changed their policies from what I can tell. It was easier to get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything. Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network er...@gotfusion.net Office:

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Darin Steffl
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM. ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not difficult. I've never had to call them before. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote: > > Thank You Jorge! What is

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-28 Thread Baldur Norddahl
What is wrong with lead acid battery backup? Seems to be exceedingly stable from my experience. We have all our equipment on -48V DC and have never had a power interruption at any site. The requirements here are 48 hours of backup by law. Telecom is declared to be part of emergency and defense,

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote: Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process. Ask ARIN. They will help you.

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread John Sweeting
Hi Terrence Your best bet and for the most accurate information is to call the ARIN help desk first thing Monday morning and talk with one of our awesome Analysts. Wait time is usually less than a minute. ARIN's Registration Services Help Desk is open and available by phone at

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this process. On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:04 AM Jorge Santiago wrote: > Go to ARIN and

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Thank You Matt! Can we please connect directly off the list to limit the noise? I would really appreciate a setup-by-step. Best, Terrance On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday. > >

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 8:34 AM Terrance Devor wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. > As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and > bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find

Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Matt Hoppes
Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday. There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN. Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense. > On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I know we are very late in the game

Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Hello Everyone, I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24. I understand that