Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Dec/19 16:10, Mike Hammett wrote: > I would still find it hard to believe you would need that kind of > speed, today, in any reasonable situation. Also, today's > infrastructure can more than handle that in most places. Where it > can't, 5G isn't going to be there for a very long time or so

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Dec/19 02:55, Ca By wrote: > > > > > Vendors are not interested in reducing costs to network operators, in > general. They may have replaced NPUs with x86 to reduce their own > costs I was just talking to some friends about this today, over a beer and some meat. We suffer the same p

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Wed Jan 01, 2020 at 09:29:20AM -0500, jdambro...@gmail.com wrote: > Given the deployment of Wi-Fi into so many different applications > - your statement that 5G is to "replace" WiFi seems overly ambitious We might think that but it is serious. They want to own it all and there is a small cabal

RE: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread jdambrosia
Given the deployment of Wi-Fi into so many different applications - your statement that 5G is to "replace" WiFi seems overly ambitious. Perhaps preventing WiFi from further penetration is a better way to look at it? -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of William Allen Simpson Sent

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread William Allen Simpson
This thread has devolved into "Why 5G"? A lot of folks are missing the bigger picture. 5G is not for better voice calls. AFAICT, it won't help voice at all. 5G is not for better integration with WiFi or IP data. 5G is to *replace* WiFi, and FTTH, and ISPs, and WISPs, and bring all data back t

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Dec/19 00:46, Brandon Martin wrote: > > My understanding is that VoLTE is signaled using SIP. SIP/IMS. Mark.

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Dec/19 00:42, Michael Thomas wrote: > > > > Oh, I didn't know that. Seems like it's a relatively new thing. Seems > like they went to a lot of trouble to essentially do what voip does. > Or maybe not? I've been poking around trying figure out what's going > on under the hood with wifi cal

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 30/Dec/19 23:39, Brandon Martin wrote: > > In theory, this is what "Hotspot 2.0" is designed to solve.  You > authenticate to the ESSID using your mobile carrier credentials, and > the resulting connection backhauls over an Internet tunnel to your > carrier who can handle the hand-off/roamin