Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread Tom Beecher
I'm familiar with the Sir Adam Beck plant, I grew up in and live in Niagara County. Not everything produced by the NYPA goes to munis. There is a lot sold direct to businesses; last I checked roughly 5% of the generation from the Niagara Power Project is allocated for businesses in WNY in a 30

Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >It helps that we have a 2.6GW pumped storage generation facility near >Niagara Falls. :) It does, but all that power goes to the munis, not the commercial company that supplies me. We do import a lot of hydro power from Quebec. There's another power plant

please block servicefinder-kundservice.se

2020-01-02 Thread Scott Weeks
I resort to this again because I have sent email to admin, had an email conversation with someone at NANOG (who is reading the list, I'm sure) and sent to the main list previously. Also, others have complained here about the same autoresponder. Please block this. I get an email from them

Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread Tom Beecher
It helps that we have a 2.6GW pumped storage generation facility near Niagara Falls. :) On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Scott Weeks wrote: > > - > > I don't know where you live, but I pay around 38 cents/KWh. Depending > > on your rate, that can go up to 53 cents/KWh during

Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread Scott Weeks
- > I don't know where you live, but I pay around 38 cents/KWh. Depending > on your rate, that can go up to 53 cents/KWh during peak times. I live in upstate New York where I pay about 8c/kwh and a fixed $15/mo connection charge. We have day/night rates available but

Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread John R. Levine
PS: You also wouldn't believe how cheap the power is. California's prices are high compared to most of the US, but it's still only about €0.15 per KWh. I don't know where you live, but I pay around 38 cents/KWh. Depending on your rate, that can go up to 53 cents/KWh during peak times. 16x is

Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/2/20 1:34 PM, Sabri Berisha wrote: - On Jan 2, 2020, at 1:24 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: PS: You also wouldn't believe how cheap the power is. California's prices are high compared to most of the US, but it's still only about €0.15 per KWh. I don't know where you live,

Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Jan 2, 2020, at 1:24 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: > PS: You also wouldn't believe how cheap the power is. California's > prices are high compared to most of the US, but it's still only about > €0.15 per KWh. I don't know where you live, but I pay around 38 cents/KWh. Depending

Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread John Levine
In article <87y2up1vc4@mid.deneb.enyo.de> you write: >I found the connection rather puzzling (that is, how switching off >power distribution prevents wildfires or at least reduces their risk). >I found some explanations here (downed lines, vegetation contact, >conductor slap, repetitive

Re: power to the internet

2020-01-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jason Wilson: > This is all in conjunction with the CPUC. I believe it is also a part of a > court order. I’ll need to find that later > > https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/deenergization/ I found the connection rather puzzling (that is, how switching off power distribution prevents wildfires or at

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-02 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Dec 30, 2019, at 9:16 PM, Brian J. Murrell br...@interlinx.bc.ca wrote: Hi, > On Mon, 2019-12-30 at 16:52 -0800, Sabri Berisha wrote: >> >> Who needs more than 640Kb of memory? >> >> We don't know what the future holds. This is an interesting read, >> featuring 5g to perform a

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-02 Thread Ben Cannon
> The primary purpose seems to be barriers to entry and competition. I could have told you that when I started a pirate FM radio station at 10. About limiting reach. There are valid RF safety concerns, but that could be solved via other less draconian regulatory procedures. That said, 10

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-02 Thread Ben Cannon
I tend to agree, we’re putting our own compute under 1ms from every cell tower in every metro. What that means is 3 or 6 DCs in a big metro area, but not usually compute in towers.Other edge compute is interesting tho. And the towers themselves are changing. We still have macro sites,

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-02 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/2/20 06:09, Mike Hammett wrote: > I know there are a couple companies doing it, but compute at the tower > isn't going to go anywhere. It makes very little sense to put it at the > tower when you can put it in one location per metro area. The bottom of a tower is a fantastically expensive

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I know there are a couple companies doing it, but compute at the tower isn't going to go anywhere. It makes very little sense to put it at the tower when you can put it in one location per metro area. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-02 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 1/1/20 10:35 AM, Brandon Butterworth wrote: On Wed Jan 01, 2020 at 09:29:20AM -0500, jdambro...@gmail.com wrote: Given the deployment of Wi-Fi into so many different applications - your statement that 5G is to "replace" WiFi seems overly ambitious We might think that but it is serious.