Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/Jan/20 00:59, Matthew Walster wrote: > > Same origin, RPKI ROA would be valid. True. But if one of multiple origins was ROA'd, others that aren't would be marked as Invalid. Mark.

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Owen DeLong
I will also say that ARIN does not appear to take suspension like this lightly at all… It has taken many years and I’m betting (at least) scores of complaints about this chronic behavior by Cogent prior to ARIN taking this action. I know that I personally have filed a number of fully documented

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Owen DeLong
ARIN can’t do much about that… Have you contacted RIPE and/or APNIC and asked them to take appropriate action? Owen > On Jan 6, 2020, at 07:58 , David Guo via NANOG wrote: > > Good News! But we still received several spams from Cogent for our RIPE and > APNIC ASNs. > > From: NANOG On

Re: ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-07 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:58 PM Keith Medcalf wrote: > > On NANOG list , Dan Hollis > wrote: > > >https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/07/icann_verisign_fees/ > > Operator of the dot-com registry, Verisign, has decided to pay DNS > overseer ICANN $4m a year for the next five years in order to

RE: ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-07 Thread Keith Medcalf
On NANOG list , Dan Hollis wrote: >https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/07/icann_verisign_fees/ Operator of the dot-com registry, Verisign, has decided to pay DNS overseer ICANN $4m a year for the next five years in order to “educate the wider ICANN community about security threats.” >98%

ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/07/icann_verisign_fees/ 98% of the comments were opposed. How many / which companies would have to get onboard in order to get enough support for an icann alternative? Is such a thing even feasible? -Dan

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Jared Mauch
I have to +1 this. I've been solicited many times by them myself and it's sad to see the information used that way. When I worked at another carrier I helped stop this as well with the sales people. They were creative, but it does at least violate the social norms of the industry at minimum

RE: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread James Breeden
Hmm. Wonder if this can be used to cancel some cogent services... I mean, they technically aren't providing access to the full internet now. 路‍♂️樂 Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note9, an AT 5G Evolution capable smartphone Original message From: Rich Kulawiec Date: 1/7/20

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 04:54:22PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: > That said, if there's a stern warning about Cogent abusing the system, > maybe their customers finding out is a good thing for the overall > community. ;-) And that is what I would suggest: reply to all queries with a notice that

Re: Discussion on Post-Earthquake Power & Communications in Puerto Rico

2020-01-07 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Puerto Rico Internet exchange is 100% fully operational On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 1:44 PM Yosem Companys wrote: > May be of interest, posted on the Startups of Puerto Rico Slack channel > earlier today: > > Marcos Cruz [4:41 AM] > I hope everyone is well, Noob question: Does anyone know for how

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Matthew Walster
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 21:16 Mark Tinka, wrote: > > > On 7/Jan/20 12:01, Martijn Schmidt via NANOG wrote: > > So while the IP space is registered to Cogent and allocated to its > > customer, the AS-path might be something like ^174_456$ but it's > > entirely possible that ARIN would observe it as

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Mike Hammett
The part that has me uneasy about that action is that the chance that Cogent sales reps are using Cogent IPs is probably low. They're probably doing this work at home. They wouldn't be blocked at all. Also, the chance that there are people that wish to use ARIN Whois services that are not

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Matt Harris
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:46 PM Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 08:51 John Curran wrote: > >> On 7 Jan 2020, at 5:01 AM, Martijn Schmidt via NANOG >> wrote: >> > >> > Out of curiosity, since we aren't affected by this ourselves, I know of >> cases where Cogent has

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 08:51 John Curran wrote: > On 7 Jan 2020, at 5:01 AM, Martijn Schmidt via NANOG > wrote: > > > > Out of curiosity, since we aren't affected by this ourselves, I know of > cases where Cogent has sub-allocated IP space to its customers but which > those customers originate

Discussion on Post-Earthquake Power & Communications in Puerto Rico

2020-01-07 Thread Yosem Companys
May be of interest, posted on the Startups of Puerto Rico Slack channel earlier today: Marcos Cruz [4:41 AM] I hope everyone is well, Noob question: Does anyone know for how long do the power plants of cell towers run on diesel? Mike Rosado:house_with_garden: [8:03 AM] I spoke with my parents in

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-07 Thread Mark Tinka
On 7/Jan/20 18:49, Andrey Kostin wrote: >   > > I'm had some aquintance with this technology and participated once in > WiFi network rollout on a relatively big stadium. All these wifi > controllers have their limits that in my understanding are > significantly lower than mobile networks. You

Re: Third Party OLT Optics

2020-01-07 Thread Baldur Norddahl
We have some FS optics in Zhone equipment. Works better than the original and has stronger output. However there is one catch: after a reboot zhone recognise that the optics are not original and refuse to bring the ports online. You then have to swap in an original optic to activate the port.

Re: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Hugo Slabbert
> > Well, in almost any* case blacklisting reflection vectors by IP is an > insanely bad practice. > * — I can *think* of a use case when this could be an appropriate solution > (I recall Netscout/Arbor once had such a use case), but in the overwhelming > majority of incidents it is absolutely

Re: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:10 PM Hugo Slabbert wrote: > And you're sure that you are the reflection target not the reflection vector? NB: I have just checked the IP addresses the OP has provided me with (offlist) against our database of known reflection sources, and I confirm that none of

Re: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Octolus Development
No, that's only for "Account Takeover".. And those problems we've solved. That was false reports, and we got whitelisted. However with this issue? They decide to completely ignore the emails, it seems like we're being either spoofed or people are attacking us with Sony's IP space. What

Re: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 9:10 PM Hugo Slabbert wrote: > And you're sure that you are the reflection target not the reflection > vector? > Well, in almost any* case blacklisting reflection vectors by IP is an insanely bad practice. * — I can *think* of a use case when this could be an

Re: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Josh Luthman
To be fair they do contact you. It's an automated process that's done daily and it has a light amount of information. The rest is totally accurate - the Playstation network stuff is an absolute joke (think back to how they were down for MONTHS). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

RE: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Tony Wicks
Good luck! I’ve dealt with such PSN IP blocking issues for several years and have found that Sony is the absolute worst possible gaming/content provider I’ve ever dealt with. One company I worked at had to threaten legal action as PSN would block CGN IPv4 addresses on their network and then

Re: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Hugo Slabbert
And you're sure that you are the reflection target not the reflection vector? As in it's definitely the case that you are the *target* here (your IP addresses are being spoofed, and the reflection attack is hitting you) rather than that someone is abusing endpoints in your network, i.e. reflecting

Re: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 9:27 PM Octolus Development wrote: > We're facing some reflected DDoS attacks, where the source address is > spoofed to appear to be our IPs, and as a result getting blacklisted. > Sony's support has told us to "change IPs" > Wait, are they blacklisting spoofed

Re: Reaching out to Sony NOC, resolving DDoS Issues - Need POC

2020-01-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Went through this last year. They simply didn't do anything productive. You have to change IPs if you want a quick resolution. They should email the POC for the IP (I think towards the end of the day) as to what happened and I believe a time frame when it will get resolved. Hopefully someone

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-07 Thread Andrey Kostin
Paul Nash писал 2020-01-06 18:45: Depending on what you are after, folk like Ruckus and Cisco have had centrally-managed enterprise WiFi for many years. I manage a Ruckus installation for an apartment building where there is one SSID from about 150 APs, users have a unique password per

Re: [E] Re: Cost Recovery Surcharge & Va Personal Property Tax Recovery for IP Transit

2020-01-07 Thread Siyuan Miao
It's in Reston (Fairfax County). On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:22 AM Eilers, Laura via NANOG wrote: > If your data center is in Ashburn, which is in Loudoun County, then the > servers inside are considered personal property and are taxed as such. They > explain it in the latter part of the article.

Re: [E] Re: Cost Recovery Surcharge & Va Personal Property Tax Recovery for IP Transit

2020-01-07 Thread Eilers, Laura via NANOG
If your data center is in Ashburn, which is in Loudoun County, then the servers inside are considered personal property and are taxed as such. They explain it in the latter part of the article. https://datacenterfrontier.com/the-data-center-dividend-tax-revenue-surges-in-loudoun-county/ Laura

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread John Curran
On 7 Jan 2020, at 5:01 AM, Martijn Schmidt via NANOG wrote: > > Out of curiosity, since we aren't affected by this ourselves, I know of cases > where Cogent has sub-allocated IP space to its customers but which those > customers originate from their own ASN and then announce to multiple

Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

2020-01-07 Thread Max Tulyev
Not only international call costs money (yes, it is extremely cheap SIP nowdays), but the time of call center operators costs money as well, And it is really not so cheap for the end customer (i.e. spammer), even in India. 20.12.19 19:56, Mark Milhollan пише: On Thu, 19 Dec 2019, Keith

Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

2020-01-07 Thread Max Tulyev
I do that every time ;) As the owner of telco, I even get small money for this call termination. Also, we implemented immediate answer and voice menu option, it says "Welcome, press ... to reach ...!" and circles. So me (as the telco operator) receive the money for call termination, and real

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Mark Tinka
On 7/Jan/20 13:12, Martijn Schmidt wrote: > I don't think Cogent signed ROAs for any of their legacy IP space from > which they make sub-allocations to customers.. so for networks doing ROV > it should just evaluate to an unknown state, rather than an invalid state. Indeed... it was just a

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Martijn Schmidt via NANOG
On 1/7/20 11:16 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > Well, they would certainly be blocked by RPKI unless ROA's for those > originations are created. > > Mark. I don't think Cogent signed ROAs for any of their legacy IP space from which they make sub-allocations to customers.. so for networks doing ROV it

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Mark Tinka
On 7/Jan/20 12:01, Martijn Schmidt via NANOG wrote: > Out of curiosity, since we aren't affected by this ourselves, I know > of cases where Cogent has sub-allocated IP space to its customers but > which those customers originate from their own ASN and then announce > to multiple upstream

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Martijn Schmidt via NANOG
Out of curiosity, since we aren't affected by this ourselves, I know of cases where Cogent has sub-allocated IP space to its customers but which those customers originate from their own ASN and then announce to multiple upstream providers. So while the IP space is registered to Cogent and

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I have two separate entries for sets of phone numbers/email addresses, associated with my name, that must be in Cogent's CRM system as cold leads. About every six months I am contacted by a new person whom I've never heard of before. My theory is that each newbie Cogent sales rep has been

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Tore Anderson
* David Guo via NANOG > Good News! But we still received several spams from Cogent for our RIPE and > APNIC ASNs. If you are an EU/EEA citizen, you may object to their use of your personal information for marketing purposes (or for any purpose at all), as well as request erasure. (Note:

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:17 PM David Hubbard wrote: > When they spam me I typically just ask if they have > IPv6 to Google and never hear back… Same here. Each time they reach out to me I quickly send them to investigate if they are able to lift the stupid 100th percentile requirement

Re: puertorico internet exchange

2020-01-07 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Fairly big earthquake has hit Puerto Rico, 6.6 almost all power in areas I have contacts are down

Re: FYI - Suspension of Cogent access to ARIN Whois

2020-01-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Martin Hannigan wrote: > Can you define exactly what services have been blocked? > IRR/ROA/TLA registry updates, etc? Were they blocked > ^174 or 174$? This is a precedent AFAIK. I’d like to > understand consequences. +1 -- Töma