RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Thursday, 19 March, 2020 10:07, Matt Hoppes wrote: >Agreed... 720 or 1080 Netflix will work just as fine as 4K for the next >month or two. As long as NetFlix lowers their prices proportionately with their reduced level of service. For example, if NetFlix decides they will only provide

Re: Anyone from Zoom video conferencing on the list?

2020-03-19 Thread Mehmet Akcin
+1 Lots of connectivity issues from Mexico and Brazil today.. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 20:41 Mike Lyon wrote: > If so, please contact me off-list. > > Thank You, > Mike > -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903

Anyone from Zoom video conferencing on the list?

2020-03-19 Thread Mike Lyon
If so, please contact me off-list. Thank You, Mike

Re: COVID-19 vs. peering wars

2020-03-19 Thread Matt Erculiani
Interesting thought, Matt. I've emailed both of my Senators to inform them of this issue and its potential impact on the resiliency of the internet (the most infamous culprit being an operator of root DNS servers, to name a specific example). I would encourage every NANOG member who cares about

Re: CISA: Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce

2020-03-19 Thread Nick Hilliard
Sean Donelan wrote on 19/03/2020 21:36: https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential-critical-infrastructure -workforce the URL had a line break inserted. This should work better: https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential-critical-infrastructure-workforce on cursory skim

COVID-19 vs. peering wars

2020-03-19 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:27 AM Mike Bolitho wrote: > *Restoration:* > > *The repair or returning to service of one or more telecommunications > services that have experienced a service outage or are unusable for any > reason, including a damaged or impaired telecommunications facility. Such >

CISA: Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce

2020-03-19 Thread Sean Donelan
The U.S. Cyber and Infrastructure Security Agency (part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security) has issued new Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce. The memorandum is advisory, not presecriptive. DHS is only one of several agencies assigned some National

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Milhollan
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020, Grant Taylor wrote: On 3/17/20 11:35 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: But I dont expect me to go to my desk any time since now in one month to press the button on the phone to set the voicemail active. My office had problems with multiple workstations needing someone to

RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Steve Mikulasik via NANOG
Noticing a few major ISPs not peering with other major networks at their local IXs, instead taking cross country trips. I am sure this isn't helping congestion right now and I have heard from some people it is really affecting their remote users. People in the same city with 80ms-100ms

Re: UDP/123 policers & status

2020-03-19 Thread Steven Sommars
NTS is initialized using a relatively expensive, but short lived, TCP TLS session. NTP loss due to rate limiting will require more frequent TCP initializations. The NTP size-blocks I've observed have been hard, not rate limits. Martin Langer provided a table showing sizes between 228 and 1468

Re: Internet operations during pandemics

2020-03-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/19/20 9:51 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: During this time, however, 'work from home' technology hasn't really progressed along the same path, has it? So, "get to the vpn" is still largely a process of getting packets across the wide internet and to small locations (your enterprise), there's

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Tom Beecher
I don’t agree with your reading of this that applies downstream congestion issues to your TSP codes circuit. But I will not continue to debate the point. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 13:22 Mike Bolitho wrote: > *Restoration:* > > *The repair or returning to service of one or more telecommunications

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Tinka
On 19/Mar/20 18:49, Jeff Shultz wrote: > A few more Netflix cache boxes might be nice. We've got one only 1 hop > away and I think we're keeping it busy. Consumers follow what they perceive as value. They gave up on Command & Control tendencies of old. Mark.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Tinka
On 19/Mar/20 18:53, Mike Bolitho wrote: > I've said it over and over again, we have TSP and it could easily be > used to enforce priority to emergency preparedness customers. It's > built into the language. Command & Control, promoted by "policy makers" who "do not see the shift". You can't

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mike Bolitho
*Restoration:* *The repair or returning to service of one or more telecommunications services that have experienced a service outage or are unusable for any reason, including a damaged or impaired telecommunications facility. Such repair or returning to service may be done by patching, rerouting,

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Tinka
On 19/Mar/20 18:07, Matt Hoppes wrote: > Agreed... 720 or 1080 Netflix will work just as fine as 4K for the > next month or two. Well, the article claims "Drop stream quality from HD". That means 4K, 1080p and 720p. If you have an OCA on your network, how does this encourage consumers to use

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Tinka
On 19/Mar/20 18:05, Mike Bolitho wrote: > I was getting blasted earlier for suggesting streaming services and > gaming DLCs could likely be slowed by government intervention. EU is > currently working with Netflix to do just that. It's currently a > strong suggestion and even a plead but I

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Tom Beecher
Yes, you have said that. I still believe you are incorrect. TSP allows priority for turnup of new capacity , and priority restoration for capacity. There is nothing in the regulations that I can find that would allow TSP to be used to rectify general internet congestion issues. On Thu, Mar 19,

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mike Bolitho
I've said it over and over again, we have TSP and it could easily be used to enforce priority to emergency preparedness customers. It's built into the language. - Mike Bolitho On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:52 AM Tom Beecher wrote: > EU regulations with such things are vastly different than in the

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Tom Beecher
EU regulations with such things are vastly different than in the US. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mike Bolitho wrote: > I was getting blasted earlier for suggesting streaming services and gaming > DLCs could likely be slowed by government intervention. EU is currently > working with Netflix

Re: Internet operations during pandemics

2020-03-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 6:23 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > Did other folk on nanog-l see the nLnog-l note copied here? > I wonder how folk are planning for things (noted in the slides) > o supply chain for parts/equipment > Wait, I can't get me a new shiny shipped because what?? > >

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Jeff Shultz
A few more Netflix cache boxes might be nice. We've got one only 1 hop away and I think we're keeping it busy. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:11 AM Matt Hoppes wrote: > > Agreed... 720 or 1080 Netflix will work just as fine as 4K for the next > month or two. > > On 3/19/20 12:05 PM, Mike Bolitho

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
Agreed... 720 or 1080 Netflix will work just as fine as 4K for the next month or two. On 3/19/20 12:05 PM, Mike Bolitho wrote: I was getting blasted earlier for suggesting streaming services and gaming DLCs could likely be slowed by government intervention. EU is currently working with

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mike Bolitho
I was getting blasted earlier for suggesting streaming services and gaming DLCs could likely be slowed by government intervention. EU is currently working with Netflix to do just that. It's currently a strong suggestion and even a plead but I maintain that we're going to see this pushed harder in

Re: Internet operations during pandemics

2020-03-19 Thread Warren Kumari
Many years ago (1990s) I worked for a startup in NYC. We had a conference room called "Conference Room S", this was a semi-reserved loft are in the Starbucks across the street, with an open tab[0]. The leads for each group had the project to design the DR / BCP plans for the entire organization,

Re: Internet operations during pandemics

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Latham
In my past it has always benefited me to set use cases and plan accordingly. For many it is difficult to imagine these less than awesome use cases. Having working to get datacentres back online in 8.8 earthquakes and dealing with fires in co-location sites it is hard. 1. Document 2. Generate use

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Tinka
On 19/Mar/20 04:35, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > We do about 70-80Gbps at peak over the external > BGP links we have and I am not seeing a large > increase nor am I seeing it spread out over time. > We're an eyeball network plus some really large > customers. > > Anyone else seeing something

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Mar/20 17:40, Keith Medcalf wrote: > Yes, it is generally an USian problem. While I cannot speak to its > prevelance in the US I can attest to the fact that USians try to bring > this philosophy with them were ever they go and that such thinking has > to be repelled with large bats. No

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Some VPN issues reported at my organisation as well Mygroup has some members who cant join, so everyone else goes out, make groups on other platforms, which I hope scale. Le 19/03/2020 à 08:18, Matt Hoppes a écrit : Our traffic is normally about 1/3 during the day of what it is at night

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
Our traffic is normally about 1/3 during the day of what it is at night (6pm-midnight). Since Monday the only change I've seen is that traffic goes to about 1/2 peak around 10am and stays there until about 6pm. So no capacity concerns We have been fielding a ridiculous amount of "my