Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Randy Bush
< note that i am wearing arrcus hat > > I'll be honest, none of our customers ever asked us to deploy RPKI and > ROV. Will they benefit from it, sure? Is it about to become part of an > RFP requirements document? Probably not. we have rov in rfps received from paying customers randy

Re: ARIN

2020-06-12 Thread John Sweeting
Thank you for taking time out to recognize the great team in RSD Mehmet! The fact is they go above and beyond each and every day and it's great to see that pointed out. Lisa and her team are amazing. Thank you again. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote: ? hey

Re: ARIN

2020-06-12 Thread John Curran
Mehmet - I shall pass along your praise to the team that does all the real work - and I very glad we could help out! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers On Jun 12, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:  hey there, I just wanted to share my experience

ARIN

2020-06-12 Thread Mehmet Akcin
hey there, I just wanted to share my experience dealing with ARIN support this week. I think it's not very common to see people taking the time to write something like this but I personally think we should do more often. It has been long time since I had to deal with RIRs and this week I had to

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Jun/20 17:19, David Sinn wrote: > Yes. Path enumeration when you use mult-tier Clos topologies within a PoP > causes you many, many problem. Okay, got you. I thought you were running into these problems on the "usual suspect" platforms. Yes, commodity hardware certainly has a number

Weekly Routing Table Report

2020-06-12 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 20:12, Andrey Kostin wrote: > Sorry for jumping in in the mddle of discussion, as a side note, in case > of IPIP tunneling, shouldn't another protocol type be utilized in MAC > header? As I understand, in VXLAN VTEP ip is dedicated for this purpose, > so receiving a packet

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Andrey Kostin
Saku Ytti писал 2020-06-12 12:10: On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 18:52, David Sinn wrote: Unless you want ECMP then it VERY much matters. But I guess since we are only talking about theoretical instead of building an actual practical network, it doesn't matter. Well blatantly we are, because in

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 18:52, David Sinn wrote: > Unless you want ECMP then it VERY much matters. But I guess since we are only > talking about theoretical instead of building an actual practical network, it > doesn't matter. Well blatantly we are, because in the real world most of the value

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Christian Meutes
Salve, On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:08 PM David Sinn wrote: Rewrites on MPLS is horrible from a memory perspective as maintaining the > state and label transition to explore all possible discrete paths across > the overall end-to-end path you are trying to take is hugely in-efficient. > Applying

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 18:42, David Sinn wrote: > But why do you need full table lookup in the middle of the network? Why place > that class of gear where it's not needed? Some people do collapsed core. But this is getting bit theoretical, because we definitely could do this on IP, we could do

Re: IPv4 Broker / Service -

2020-06-12 Thread Bryan Holloway
+1 On 6/11/20 9:38 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: Addrex.net I know some of the principles personally and would vouch for them. On June 11, 2020 at 14:27 edwin.malle...@gmail.com (edwin.malle...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi Nanog, > > > > I have need of a reputable IPv4 broker or service

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Jun/20 19:19, Saku Ytti wrote: > The demand is, we need tunneling, then the question is what are the > metrics of a good tunneling solution. By answering this honestly, MPLS > is better. We could do better surely, but IP is not that. One unexpected benefit, I will say, with going native

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 18:16, David Sinn wrote: > I'm not sure what implementation you are saying doesn't exist. The Broadcom > XGS line is all on-die. The two largest cloud providers are using them in > their transport network (to the best of my understanding). So I'm not sure if > your

RE: Partial vs Full tables

2020-06-12 Thread Brian Turnbow via NANOG
Hi all, > > Loose mode RPF will essentially drop traffic received on the interface if the > router does not have any route for. (will not match a default or a discard > route, at least in IOS-XR) > > As Bill has pointed out, this may drop traffic from some peering networks that > are not in the

Re: IPv4 Broker / Service -

2020-06-12 Thread DIEGO ZORRILLA (diefierr) via NANOG
I have good knowledge about best reputation of https://www.ipbroker.es/ Regards Diego On 11/06/20 14:40, "NANOG on behalf of b...@theworld.com" wrote: Addrex.net I know some of the principles personally and would vouch for them. On June 11, 2020 at 14:27