Re: Hurricane Electric has reached 0 RPKI INVALIDs in our routing table

2020-06-15 Thread Mehmet Akcin
congratulations HE team!. On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:56 PM TJ Trout wrote: > absolutely awesome Mike! > > Can you put on the roadmap to enable irr based filters for customers with > bgp communities? > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:48 PM Mike Leber via NANOG > wrote: > >> I'm pleased to announce

Re: Hurricane Electric has reached 0 RPKI INVALIDs in our routing table

2020-06-15 Thread TJ Trout
absolutely awesome Mike! Can you put on the roadmap to enable irr based filters for customers with bgp communities? On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:48 PM Mike Leber via NANOG wrote: > I'm pleased to announce Hurricane Electric has completed our RPKI > INVALID filtering project and we now have 0 RPKI

Hurricane Electric has reached 0 RPKI INVALIDs in our routing table

2020-06-15 Thread Mike Leber via NANOG
I'm pleased to announce Hurricane Electric has completed our RPKI INVALID filtering project and we now have 0 RPKI INVALIDs in our routing table. Hurricane Electric has 29021 BGP sessions with 22109 prefix filters with 7191 networks directly and 8239 networks including Internet exchanges. We

Re: ... you kicked out the patch cable (or, major global internet outages)

2020-06-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:38 PM wrote: > > Ben Cannon wrote on 6/15/2020 4:11 PM: > > > https://downdetector.com/ > > ...you kicked out a patch cable. (Nods to BOFH) > > > > In all seriousness, looks major... Long-haul cut? Did we lose a pie > > or COs? > > > > -Ben > T-mobile implies routing

Re: ... you kicked out the patch cable (or, major global internet outages)

2020-06-15 Thread blakangel
Ben Cannon wrote on 6/15/2020 4:11 PM: https://downdetector.com/ ...you kicked out a patch cable.  (Nods to BOFH) In all seriousness, looks major...  Long-haul cut? Did we lose a pie or COs? -Ben T-mobile implies routing issue: https://twitter.com/TMobileHelp/status/1272645683263094784

... you kicked out the patch cable (or, major global internet outages)

2020-06-15 Thread Ben Cannon
https://downdetector.com/ ...you kicked out a patch cable. (Nods to BOFH) In all seriousness, looks major... Long-haul cut? Did we lose a pie or COs? -Ben

Re: Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Brian
Yes I too looked into that. And it was not near that price. Please send me and email off list. I would like to know where I might find that. On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 2:58 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > We just got a MX204 quote and it was close to 2.5x the

RE: Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Tony Wicks
As someone who has used VSR (Nokia) and VMX (Juniper) I’d suggest, good luck on your plan to use servers for this sort of routing. If you want a cheap router to handle full tables and a couple of 10G interfaces worth of throughput I’d suggest you would be a lot better off with Mikrotik’s latest

Re: Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
We just got a MX204 quote and it was close to 2.5x the price you're quoting, with apparently the minimum license needed for full tables, and Next Day replacement. So if it's really $11K, please shoot me an email off list. Or if someone has a better place to get a decent quote for a MX204, or

academic paper on Peerlock BGP protection mechanism

2020-06-15 Thread Job Snijders
Dear colleagues,

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Jun/20 12:13, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Not to mention this whole thread is focused solely on next-hop > identification -which is just the lowest of the layers of abstraction > in the vertical stack. We haven’t talked about other "entities" that > need identification like:

Fwd: [lacnog] LACNOG 2020 - Call for Presentations

2020-06-15 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Hi all, LACNOG (the Latin American and Caribbean Network Operators Group) will be a virtual meeting this year. Looking forward to great talks from our big brother NANOG members :-) /Carlos LACNOG PC Forwarded message: From: Jorge Villa To: Latin America and Caribbean Region Network

Re: Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Nick Hilliard
Patrick Cole wrote on 15/06/2020 14:16: MX204's may have gotten chaper in the last year I don't know. But YMMV. OP needs to check the licensing package for the MX204, and work out the N-year TCO. Nick

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Jun/20 12:13, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Not to mention this whole thread is focused solely on next-hop identification > -which is just the lowest of the layers of abstraction in the vertical stack. > We haven’t talked about other "entities" that need identification like:

Re: Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Patrick Cole
Drew, A 6 Tbps router is a little more expensive than a 2 Tbps router, yes. I was referring to the 7280SR range not the 7280CR. I ended up getting our SR2k's around the same price as MX204's with the help of our friendly Arista rep. MX204's may have gotten chaper in the last year I don't

RE: Partial vs Full tables

2020-06-15 Thread Drew Weaver
Yeah, as I mentioned this was a few years ago. =) -Original Message- From: Saku Ytti Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 8:54 AM To: Drew Weaver Cc: William Herrin ; brad dreisbach ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Partial vs Full tables Hey Drew, > The only time we have ever noticed any sort

Re: Partial vs Full tables

2020-06-15 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey Drew, > The only time we have ever noticed any sort of operational downside of using > uRPF loose was when NTTs router in NYC thought a full table was only 500,000 > routes a few years back. If NTT is 2914 this can no longer happen and it is difficult to see 2914 would ever go back to

RE: Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Drew Weaver
We've been setting up some Arista DCS-7280CR2K-30-F lately and they have been just OK. The pricing is not at all close to $12,000 though. -Drew -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Patrick Cole Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 8:42 AM To: Colton Conor Cc: NANOG Subject: Re:

Re: Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Patrick Cole
Colton, We recently opted for the Arista 7280R2K for peering edge. They come in at similar price points (maybe a little more?) to the MX204 and are a bit higher capacity. Worth a look in. Cheers, Patrick Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 07:00:55AM -0500, Colton Conor wrote: >For around $11,000

Re: Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Brandon Martin
On 6/15/20 8:00 AM, Colton Conor wrote: For around $11,000 right now, you can get a brand new Juniper MX204 router. Alternatively, you can get a used MX240 / MX480 with quad power supplies, redundant quad core RE's, and 2 16X10G MIC cards for around $12,000. My question, is there anything

RE: Partial vs Full tables

2020-06-15 Thread Drew Weaver
This is just my experience so do whatever you want with that. The only time we have ever noticed any sort of operational downside of using uRPF loose was when NTTs router in NYC thought a full table was only 500,000 routes a few years back. That is a fairly real consideration though. =)

Router Suggestions

2020-06-15 Thread Colton Conor
For around $11,000 right now, you can get a brand new Juniper MX204 router. Alternatively, you can get a used MX240 / MX480 with quad power supplies, redundant quad core RE's, and 2 16X10G MIC cards for around $12,000. My question, is there anything else worth looking at in this price range /

RE: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-15 Thread adamv0025
> From: Saku Ytti > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:02 AM > > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 12:46, wrote: > > > Yes it can indeed, and that's moving towards the centre between the > extreme cases that David laid out. > > It's about how granular one wants to be in identifying an end-to-end path >

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-15 Thread Saku Ytti
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 12:46, wrote: > Yes it can indeed, and that's moving towards the centre between the extreme > cases that David laid out. > It's about how granular one wants to be in identifying an end-to-end path > between a pair of edge nodes. > I agree with you that MPLS is still

RE: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-15 Thread adamv0025
> From: Saku Ytti > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 10:31 AM > > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 12:24, wrote: > > > > Yes this is where each node needs to have a label uniquely identifying > > every LSP passing through it. > > Saku, > > With IP header you don't need this, > > Consider this: > > PE1 to

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-15 Thread Saku Ytti
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 12:24, wrote: > Yes this is where each node needs to have a label uniquely identifying every > LSP passing through it. > Saku, > With IP header you don't need this, > Consider this: > PE1 to PE2 via 3 P-core nodes > With ECMP in IP, then PE1 just needs single FEC the

RE: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-15 Thread adamv0025
> David Sinn > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 4:42 PM > > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > > > On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 18:16, David Sinn wrote: > > > The label stack question is about the comparisons between the two > extremes of SR that you can be in. You either label your

RE: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-15 Thread adamv0025
> From: David Sinn > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 4:19 PM > > > On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:02 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 11/Jun/20 17:32, David Sinn wrote: > > > >> Respectfully, that is deployment dependent. In a traditional SP topology > that focuses on large do everything boxes, where the