In this specific event, 3356 not withdrawing routes is certainly a head
scratcher, and I'm sure for many the thing we're most looking forward to a
definitive answer on.
However, if a network only has 3356 as their upstream, they are 100% at the
mercy of 3356 at all times. Having a redundant AND
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 4:36 PM Tom Beecher wrote:
>
> Hopefully those customers learned the difference between redundancy and
> diversity this weekend. :)
I'm unclear how either solves things for many customers...
If they had CenturyLink and AcmeNetworkWidgets, and announce the same
network
We’re bailing out a customer in exactly this same boat as we speak. There are
so many.
Ms. Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
CEO
b...@6by7.net
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the
world.”
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> On Aug 31,
Hopefully those customers learned the difference between redundancy and
diversity this weekend. :)
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 3:48 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> There's a number of enterprise end user type customers of 3356 that have
> on-premises server rooms/hosting for their stuff. And they spend a
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 3:52 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> There's a number of enterprise end user type customers of 3356 that have
> on-premises server rooms/hosting for their stuff. And they spend a lot of
> money every month for a 'redundant' metro ethernet circuit that takes diverse
> fiber
There's a number of enterprise end user type customers of 3356 that have
on-premises server rooms/hosting for their stuff. And they spend a lot of
money every month for a 'redundant' metro ethernet circuit that takes
diverse fiber paths from their business park office building to the local
I also found the part where they mention that a lot of hosting companies only
have one uplink to be quizzical and also the fact that he goes pretty close to
implying that its Centurylink’s customers fault for not having multiple paths
to Cloudflare that don’t touch Centurylink a bit puzzling.
True, but I was including conversations with colleagues where we generally
*do* discuss carriers we like.
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:28 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
> I've never heard a single positive word about them
>>
>
> There is rarely much in the way of emails/messages sent about things when
>
Not everyone will peer with you, notably, AS3356 (unless you're big
enough, which few can say.)
On 8/31/20 4:33 PM, Tomas Lynch wrote:
Maybe we are idealizing these so-called tier-1 carriers and we, tier-ns,
should treat them as what they really are: another AS. Accept that they
are going to
At the end of the day, the business needs to besides to take that cost. All
you can do is document, and talk about the risks.
Save that email for that "I told you so moment"
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:50 AM Mike Bolitho wrote:
> That's all we can do. Thankfully I work for an org that
Dell Support or some other group may be more appropriate for this…
Good luck, In IRC land you may want to visit Freenode #Ubuntu #Linux #Centos…..
If you are searching for an IRC client after thus message check out mIRC for
Windows or XChat for *IX variations and hang out on those for a while.
It could be many things. I suggest you google DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN and
start reading articles. This group isn’t a good place to ask.
-mel beckman
On Aug 31, 2020, at 7:40 AM, peter agakpe wrote:
Can I get some help deploy my server online. I have Ubuntu and centos installed
but
Um, this is a list for North American network operators, not r/techsupport...
If you aren’t capable of doing even the most basic configuration of name
servers, you are in the wrong place.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 31, 2020, at 8:38 AM, peter agakpe wrote:
>
>
> Can I get some help
That's all we can do. Thankfully I work for an org that understands this
and has *at least* two fully redundant circuits. Sometimes a third smaller
carrier if we can prove that it is diverse, but that isn't the case very
often.
- Mike Bolitho
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 7:35 AM Tomas Lynch wrote:
You're preaching to the choir here.. ;)
On 8/31/20 4:33 PM, Tomas Lynch wrote:
Maybe we are idealizing these so-called tier-1 carriers and we, tier-ns, should
treat them as what they really are: another AS. Accept that they are going to
fail and do our best to mitigate the impact on our own
Can I get some help deploy my server online. I have Ubuntu and centos installed
but still having some problems. I keep getting; “server IP address could not be
found. DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN.”
Could use, no, need help.
thanks
Sent from
Maybe we are idealizing these so-called tier-1 carriers and we, tier-ns,
should treat them as what they really are: another AS. Accept that they are
going to fail and do our best to mitigate the impact on our own networks,
i.e. more peering.
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:54 AM Martijn Schmidt via
Peace,
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 4:42 PM Mike Bolitho wrote:
> Maybe we should start an "Uptime mailing list" ha!
>
We already have outages@ which is a Boolean negation of what you're
proposing but works just the same :-)
--
Töma
>
At this point you don't even know whether it's a human error (example:
generating a flowspec rule for port TCP/179), a filtering issue (example:
accepting a flowspec rule for port TCP/179), or a software issue (example:
certain flowspec update crashes the BGP daemon). And in the third scenario
Maybe we should start an "Uptime mailing list" ha! But yeah, when things
are working well nobody talks about it. The CTL network is very large.
However, it's clear their blast radius mentality isn't real great. We saw
this yesterday. We saw this Dec 2018. Global outages shouldn't be a thing.
-
>
> I've never heard a single positive word about them
>
There is rarely much in the way of emails/messages sent about things when
they work well.
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 11:03 AM Ross Tajvar wrote:
> I've never heard a single positive word about them, and I've had my fair
> share of issues
>
> https://blog.cloudflare.com/analysis-of-todays-centurylink-level-3-outage/
I definitely found Mr. Prince's writing about yesterday's events
fascinating.
Verizon makes a mistake with BGP filters that allows a secondary mistake
from leaked "optimizer" routes to propagate, and Mr. Prince takes
>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 6:02 PM Ross Tajvar wrote:
>> Other than lack of options, why would anyone use them?
>>
> On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
> Connectivity and latency (of Level3 which was acquired).
Yeah. What I think a lot of us liked was Global Crossing. When
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