Re: how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-12 Thread Yang Yu
> > Why not publish RFC8805 Geofeed directly in inetnum remarks section? > > for some flat fan out last kilometer providers that could be the > inetnum: object from hell. there are global providers which segment > large prefixes over diverse areas. etc. > > i doubt the rpsl providers would like

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, Matt Erculiani wrote: Linking relevant past thread about devices that don't alert for emergencies and, of course, a heated debate on if they should: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-March/199721.html Yep. I'm not naive. I keep saying something, because one

Re: how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-12 Thread Ca By
On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 4:43 PM Randy Bush wrote: > hi ca > > > > > I gave your I-D a try in the real world, and it does not work with a > > > major player. > > > > i.e. arin and radb, your region, which does not do rpsl as others do. > > we know this, which is why the OP $subjest was > > > >

Re: how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-12 Thread Randy Bush
hi ca > I gave your I-D a try in the real world, and it does not work with a > major player. i.e. arin and radb, your region, which does not do rpsl as others do. we know this, which is why the OP $subjest was "how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam?" > I thought you might

Re: how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-12 Thread Randy Bush
yang, > Why not publish RFC8805 Geofeed directly in inetnum remarks section? for some flat fan out last kilometer providers that could be the inetnum: object from hell. there are global providers which segment large prefixes over diverse areas. etc. i doubt the rpsl providers would like

Re: how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-12 Thread Yang Yu
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:48 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > would folk familiar with the north american RIR and IRR registries be > kind enough to suggest how this might adapt? thanks. > Hi Randy, Why not publish RFC8805 Geofeed directly in inetnum remarks section? Then there is no more need to host

Re: how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-12 Thread Ca By
On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:13 PM Randy Bush wrote: > hi camron > > sad to say, the days of faxing around number assigments have passed. > the kiddie googlers who wrote the geofeeds rfc probably have not even > seen a fax machine. they just did not like having a hundred gnomes in > the basement

Re: how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-12 Thread Randy Bush
hi camron sad to say, the days of faxing around number assigments have passed. the kiddie googlers who wrote the geofeeds rfc probably have not even seen a fax machine. they just did not like having a hundred gnomes in the basement dealing with everybody's formats. given silicon valley housing

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-12 Thread Adrian Farrel
>> Does anyone know the scope on why we have 2 names for this ? > > SPRING is the IETF working group name - Source Packet Routing in Networking > Segment Routing is under SPRING Yeah, sorry, this was my fault. Gotta have a catchy name. As to "SPRINGv4" as others have said, this is not a

RE: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-12 Thread Chuck Church
Isn’t this a better topic for CNet as opposed to NANOG? Chuck From: NANOG On Behalf Of ITechGeek Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:12 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming At least cell phones have a

Re: how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-12 Thread Ca By
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:49 PM Randy Bush wrote: > would folk familiar with the north american RIR and IRR registries be > > kind enough to suggest how this might adapt? thanks. > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-02.txt > > has been successfully submitted by Randy

Re: Wildfires: Clear fuel from hilltop and remote area communications towers

2020-09-12 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale
Don, your answer to Eric's valid point is open to broad interpretation - what is your point, exactly? On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 3:24 AM Don Gould wrote: > Eric they have the same issues in Australia. You might want to join > aunog, if you haven't already, I'm sure you'll find endorsement for