Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/16/21 07:49, Matthew Petach wrote: Isn't that a result of ERCOT stubbornly refusing to interconnect with the rest of the national grid, out of an irrational fear of coming under federal regulation? I suspect that trying to be self-sufficient works most of the time--but when you get

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Matthew Petach
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:50 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Cory Sell via NANOG wrote: > > adoption. Sure, wind isn’t perfect, but looks like solution relied on > failed > > in a massive way. > > Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. > > The extreme

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Yang Yu
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:49 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. sounds familiar, even connected to a much bigger grid http://www.caiso.com/Documents/Final-Root-Cause-Analysis-Mid-August-2020-Extreme-Heat-Wave.pdf

Re: Infomart Dallas is on generator

2021-02-15 Thread Erik Sundberg
Latest from Equinix as of 10PM 2/15 Dear Equinix Customer, IBX(s):DA3 IBX Address:1950 North Stemmons Freeway Suites 1039A & 2048 Dallas, TX 75207 Ticket#:5-204633870202 Date and Time of Occurrence:15-FEB-2021 02:46 Site Local Time Date and Time Update Reported:15-FEB-2021 21:58 Site Local Time

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Cory Sell via NANOG
Total population is a pretty big difference as you go north, as is how well infrastructure is actually prepared for snow/ice and cold temperatures in general. I’ve been without power all day and have no doubt I’ll cross the 24-hour mark here in a handful of hours. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Cory Sell via NANOG wrote: adoption. Sure, wind isn’t perfect, but looks like solution relied on failed in a massive way. Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. The extreme cold weather extends northwards across many states, which aren't

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Sean Donelan
Electric prices on the Texas spot market are $9,000/MWh. Normally they are less than $15/MWh. During the summer months, Texas spot market prices have gone to zero because it has excess summertime wind turbine capacity. I suspect those are computer generated artificial prices, because there

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/16/21 06:34, Cory Sell wrote: Ercot has already released actual documentation of the outputs. Wind is NOT the biggest loss here. Even if wind was operating at 100% capacity, we’d be in the same boat due to gas and fossil fuel-related generation being decimated. Estimated 4GW lost for

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/16/21 06:17, Robert Jacobs wrote: How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide more power in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now wind which of course in an ice storm like

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Cory Sell via NANOG
Ercot has already released actual documentation of the outputs. Wind is NOT the biggest loss here. Even if wind was operating at 100% capacity, we’d be in the same boat due to gas and fossil fuel-related generation being decimated. Estimated 4GW lost for wind doesn’t make up for the 30GW+

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Robert Jacobs
How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide more power in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now wind which of course in an ice storm like we are having is shut off... Lots of issues

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/16/21 04:14, Sean Donelan wrote: Poweroutage.us posted a terrific map, showing the jurisdictional borders of the Texas power outages versus the storm related power outages elsewhere in the country. https://twitter.com/PowerOutage_us/status/1361493394070118402 Sometimes

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Sean Donelan
Poweroutage.us posted a terrific map, showing the jurisdictional borders of the Texas power outages versus the storm related power outages elsewhere in the country. https://twitter.com/PowerOutage_us/status/1361493394070118402 Sometimes infrastructure planning failures are not due to

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
See also, regional maps here. Thanks to CAIDA and the IODA project. https://ioda.caida.org/ioda/dashboard On Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 5:54 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > Not as bad as Myanmar (14%), Internet connectivity in Texas has been > declining today. According to NetBlocks, which normally monitors

Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Sean Donelan
Not as bad as Myanmar (14%), Internet connectivity in Texas has been declining today. According to NetBlocks, which normally monitors government imposed outages, reports network connectivity at 68% in Texas. https://netblocks.org/ Texas operates a separate electric grid, with limited

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread bzs
In my humble but correct opinion one of the things which sabotages these efforts is an aversion to any solution which doesn't feel like it would work quickly and decisively (ask Bezos to offer a discount to anyone using IPv6 to order on Amazon???) I remember back in ~2003 on the Anti-Spam

Re: Infomart Dallas is on generator

2021-02-15 Thread Matthew Crocker
They are most likely part of a demand load shedding program and are being paid to run off generator. From: NANOG on behalf of Eric Kuhnke Date: Monday, February 15, 2021 at 5:10 PM To: "nanog@nanog.org list" Subject: Infomart Dallas is on generator I have now heard from two reliable

Re: Infomart Dallas is on generator

2021-02-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://www.ercot.com/ The 501c(4) nonprofit entity which controls the Texas grid. They've been publishing load shedding updates. On Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 5:07 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > From the latest update it sounds like rolling power outages in Dallas as > > most places in Texas > > >

Re: Infomart Dallas is on generator

2021-02-15 Thread Randy Bush
> From the latest update it sounds like rolling power outages in Dallas as > most places in Texas https://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/08/texplainer-why-does-texas-have-its-own-power-grid/

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Randy Bush
> it’s unclear if there’s been any systematic look-back or institutional > learning coming out of the entire experience. i am always impressed by optimism in the face of cold reality

Re: Infomart Dallas is on generator

2021-02-15 Thread Kaiser, Erich
>From the latest update it sounds like rolling power outages in Dallas as most places in Texas (We have several other sites affected as well) so they probably figure to just leave everything on generator (All Equinix DCs, not sure on others) for more stable power. I just got an update that

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Andrews
1993 matches my recollections as well. Network Working Group S. Bradner Internet draftHarvard University A. Mankin

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:36 PM Joe Loiacono wrote: > V8! heh ... wow hadn't thought of that for a while ... ... Slaps forehead and says: "Wow, I could've had a V8!"

Re: Infomart Dallas is on generator

2021-02-15 Thread Robert DeVita
Hopefully the other 400mw in Dallas follow their lead. Robert DeVita Founder & CEO Mejeticks c. 469-441-8864 e. radev...@mejeticks.com From: NANOG on behalf of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 4:10:32 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Infomart

Infomart Dallas is on generator

2021-02-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I have now heard from two reliable sources that Infomart Dallas is presently on generator, and is likely to remain so until the cold weather/electrical supply emergency in Texas has abated. No network impact seen yet.

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Joe Loiacono
V8!  heh ... wow hadn't thought of that for a while ... On 2/15/2021 3:39 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 10:51:51 -0800, Sabri Berisha said: Well, considering this RIPE article that talked about IPv7 already..

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Fred Baker
Streams Transport and PIP. Good grief. V7 was Robert Ullman’s CATNIP. He wanted to sell hardware to everyone, and V7 was the interchange protocol between IPv4, IPX, and CLNS. Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways... > On Feb 15, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Valdis Klētnieks >

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread james.cut...@consultant.com
It’s Dead, Jim — Speaking of V8. I’m glad Outlook had a Delete button. > On Feb 15, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 10:51:51 -0800, Sabri Berisha said: > >> Well, considering this RIPE article that talked about IPv7 already.. >> >>

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 10:51:51 -0800, Sabri Berisha said: > Well, considering this RIPE article that talked about IPv7 already.. > > https://lists.ripe.net/pipermail/ripe-org-closed/1993/msg00024.html Bonus points for those who remember/know where v5 and v8 were from :) pgpdrYkPJgCF0.pgp

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Geoff Mulligan
Actually John - IPng started out being called IPv7, but we caught the mistake and renamed it IPv6.  Whew :-) Geoff On 2/15/21 8:33 AM, John Curran wrote: On 15 Feb 2021, at 2:01 AM, Mark Andrews > wrote: ... Complain to your vendors about not implementing RFC 8305, RFC

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Feb 15, 2021, at 9:28 AM, mel wrote: Hi, > LOL! Well, Mike says “definitely at least 1993”, whereas Wikipedia itself says > that Wikipedia cannot be trusted. Mike, to my knowledge, has never admitted > being wrong. So I’m going with Mike :) Well, considering this RIPE article that

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Mel Beckman
LOL! Well, Mike says “definitely at least 1993”, whereas Wikipedia itself says that Wikipedia cannot be trusted. Mike, to my knowledge, has never admitted being wrong. So I’m going with Mike :) I think it was Al Gore who first proposed IPv6, right Mike? :) -mel beckman On Feb 15, 2021, at

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Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 7:49 AM Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 22:25:56 -0800, William Herrin said: > > This particular problem could be quickly resolved if the OSes still > > getting updates were updated to default name resolution to prioritize > > the IPv4 addresses instead. That

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 22:25:56 -0800, William Herrin said: > This particular problem could be quickly resolved if the OSes still > getting updates were updated to default name resolution to prioritize > the IPv4 addresses instead. That would allow broken IPv6 > configurations to exist without

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread John Curran
On 15 Feb 2021, at 2:01 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > ... > Complain to your vendors about not implementing RFC 8305, RFC 6724, and > RFC 7078. RFC 8305 or RFC6724 + RFC 7078 would fix your issue. > > Thats Happy Eyeballs and tuneable address selection rules. Mark - You’ve properly

Re: New York Carrier Hotels

2021-02-15 Thread Jared Mauch
I’m expecting many people to move out to 165 Halsey but as with many things the future is still hazy. I also wonder if at some point Google will decide that WFH is viable and they don’t need the office space in 111 8th and things will swing back.. (Yes, I know that 165 isn’t in NY) - Jared

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread james.cut...@consultant.com
On Feb 11, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Kenneth J. Dupuis wrote: > > 1995? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 > > On Feb 11, 2021 8:51 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 2/11/21 5:41 PM, Izaac wrote: > > > >> IPv6 restores that ability and RFC-1918 is a bandaid for an obsolete > >> protocol. > > So, in

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Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Kenneth J. Dupuis
1995? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6On Feb 11, 2021 8:51 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: On 2/11/21 5:41 PM, Izaac wrote: > >> IPv6 restores that ability and RFC-1918 is a bandaid for an obsolete protocol. > So, in your mind, IPv4 was "obsolete" in 1996 -- almost three years > before IPv6

Re: New York Carrier Hotels

2021-02-15 Thread Kenneth J. Dupuis
I don't know about future ones but 32AoA, 60H, etc. are still important.https://www.datacentermap.com/usa/new-york/new-york/I've lived here 44 years so if you need photos, on-the-ground knowledge, etc., let me know off-list. KenOn Feb 11, 2021 1:51 PM, Rod Beck wrote: Hey Folks, I am

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/15/21 09:59, na...@jack.fr.eu.org wrote: Yet both ps5 and xbox series x have ipv6 support A console released in 2013 do not, but its successor released in 2020 have it How wild is this, I wonder why ? IPv6 also runs on hardware that was shipped as far back as 2003, if not

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 11:01 PM Mark Andrews wrote: > Complain to your vendors about not implementing RFC 8305, RFC 6724, and > RFC 7078. RFC 8305 or RFC6724 + RFC 7078 would fix your issue. > > Thats Happy Eyeballs and tuneable address selection rules. > > You don’t have to perform the naive

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread nanog
Yet both ps5 and xbox series x have ipv6 support A console released in 2013 do not, but its successor released in 2020 have it How wild is this, I wonder why ? On 2/15/21 5:25 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: I mean, there's a reason that in 2021, PS4 still does not support IPv6. Mark.