The video is pretty good particularly where it's most pessimistic.
My prediction:
It might take a little more than ten years but I'll predict positive
ID or you're not getting anywhere useful.
And a lot of people here will loathe that.
But you/we had your chance and spent most of your
- On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:20 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
Hi,
> Also keep in mind that "most blocklists" is meaningless. Any moron can
> run a blocklist, any many morons do. The vast majority of blockists
> are used by close to nobody, and only handful are widely enough used
> to
It appears that Elvis Daniel Velea said:
>There are a handful of blocklists that will list the whole block (that
>may be a /24 or even a /16) - Spamhaus is an example.
No, they don't.
Spamhaus may expand a listing to a /24 or bigger when they see a
pattern of abuse from a network but the SBL
On 3/26/21 3:31 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 3/26/21 23:30, b...@uu3.net wrote:
Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but they are not missing anything..
Internet become a consumer product where data is provided by
large corporations similary to TV now. Your avarage Joe consumer
does NOT care about NAT
On 3/26/21 2:00 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
There are more smart phones in use in the world today the world than can be
addressed by IPv4. Complaining about lack of IPv6 deployment has been
legitimate for a long time. Telcos shouldn’t have to deploy NATs. Homes
shouldn’t have to deploy NATs.
Awesome, I think I’ve figured out the Google ISP portal signup, but it
definitely seems semi-complicated in a way, notably finding the link…
Thank you,
Michael K. Spears
727.656.3347
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:30 PM
To: Michael K. Spears
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re:
On 3/26/21 23:30, b...@uu3.net wrote:
Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but they are not missing anything..
Internet become a consumer product where data is provided by
large corporations similary to TV now. Your avarage Joe consumer
does NOT care about NAT and that he cant run services or he
We're working on a video to show people how to sign up for the ISP portal and
get to that part of the portal once signed up. We'll drop a link to it near the
Google section of our geolocation page.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
On 3/26/21 23:00, Mark Andrews wrote:
There are more smart phones in use in the world today the world than can be
addressed by IPv4. Complaining about lack of IPv6 deployment has been
legitimate for a long time. Telcos shouldn’t have to deploy NATs. Homes
shouldn’t have to deploy NATs.
On 3/26/21 22:12, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
Ten years from now? Easy. We’ll still be talking about the continued shortage
of IPv4 address space and (legitimately) complaining about why IPv6 still isn’t
the default addressing/routing methodology for the Internet worldwide.
Thankfully, the
Hi Bill,
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 22:16, William Herrin wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:42 PM Lukas Tribus wrote:
> > In production, you may be able to troubleshoot this a few months from
> > now, but how will the on-duty junior engineer handle this at 03 AM?
>
> Hi Lukas,
>
> In the
On 3/26/21 21:42, Michael Thomas wrote:
So the obvious question is what will happen to the internet 10 years
from now. The last 10 years were all about phones and apps, but that's
pretty well played out by now. Gratuitously networked devices like my
dishwasher will probably be common, but
Sweet, that’s massively helpful. I just found the link to request access to the
Google ISP portal.
Thank you,
Michael K. Spears
From: Brendan Halley
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:18 PM
To: Michael K. Spears
Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation
Hey,
Google ISP portal is your best bet. Can do
Anyone have a good contact at Google who can help with IP geolocation? I have a
/24 where anything related to Google is in the wrong language.
Thank you,
Michael K. Spears
On 3/26/21 2:00 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
> Telcos shouldn’t have to deploy NATs. Homes shouldn’t have to
>deploy NATs. Businesses shouldn’t have to deploy NATs.
But NATs are good: https://youtu.be/v26BAlfWBm8
(Since we're speaking of things from ~10 years ago...!)
--
Robert L Mathews, Tiger
Despite having worked for an ILEC in network ops for 10yrs, I can't figure out
how to answer this without an SS7 sniffer (which I obviously no longer have,
nor access to an SSP or SCP).
What 3rd-party carrier(s), if any, does Microsoft use to originate & terminate
MS Teams-to-PSTN voice calls
Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but they are not missing anything..
Internet become a consumer product where data is provided by
large corporations similary to TV now. Your avarage Joe consumer
does NOT care about NAT and that he cant run services or he does NOT
have full e2e communication.
Yes, you
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:42 PM Lukas Tribus wrote:
> In production, you may be able to troubleshoot this a few months from
> now, but how will the on-duty junior engineer handle this at 03 AM?
Hi Lukas,
In the network Vom describes, he is surely the only network engineer.
I would agree that it
There are more smart phones in use in the world today the world than can be
addressed by IPv4. Complaining about lack of IPv6 deployment has been
legitimate for a long time. Telcos shouldn’t have to deploy NATs. Homes
shouldn’t have to deploy NATs. Businesses shouldn’t have to deploy NATs.
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 20:01, William Herrin wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:07 AM vom513 wrote:
> > As I said in the tl;dr - my main point of contention here is breaking up my
> > /24 I.e. use the very top /30s / /31s for ptp/loop. I would then have at
> > most the bottom /25 to use
On 3/26/2021 3:27 PM, Lukas Tribus wrote:
Another alternative is to use the actual user interface to get your
iBGP across, which is publicly addressed.
I think this may actually be the best solution proposed so far. iBGP (as
spec'd by the op) can be setup between the WAN, LAN, loopback, or
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 20:21, William Herrin wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:14 PM Blake Hudson wrote:
> > And here I almost went as far as to suggest unnumbered IPs you're
> > plan is... well... diabolical in comparison.
>
> Hi Blake,
>
> I aim to please. I really wish the router
> On 3/26/21 12:26 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>> If the last decade is anything to go by, I'm keen to see what the next one
>> brings.
>> Mark.
>>
>
>
> So the obvious question is what will happen to the internet 10 years from
> now. The last 10 years were all about phones and apps, but that's
The same FCC which keeps outage reports secret from the public (and
congress?), is seeking information about wireless service provider's
safety measures during disasters.
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-21-362A1.pdf
How have mobile wireless service providers addressed and improved
On 3/26/21 12:26 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
If the last decade is anything to go by, I'm keen to see what the next
one brings.
Mark.
So the obvious question is what will happen to the internet 10 years
from now. The last 10 years were all about phones and apps, but that's
pretty well played
On 3/26/21 19:58, Randy Bush wrote:
in 2010, the internet society made some videos on possible internet
futures ten years out, i.e. nowish. nothing spot on, but themes
can be seen for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB4zfGwctGc
The production style alone takes me back. I never
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:14 PM Blake Hudson wrote:
> And here I almost went as far as to suggest unnumbered IPs you're
> plan is... well... diabolical in comparison.
Hi Blake,
I aim to please. I really wish the router vendors supported a
statically configured "ICMP error from" address
On 3/26/2021 2:01 PM, William Herrin wrote:
If you feel like getting fancy...
Use /32 routes to reclaim the unused base and broadcast address in any /30s
Pick the next largest size block that has your /24 neither at the
start or end and assign that to your lan.
Use proxy arp and more
>
> i take real addresses out of the /24 for p2p
> i take 1918 addresses for ibgp loopbacks
>
This.
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 2:22 PM Randy Bush wrote:
> > tl;dr - If I only have a /24 PI - is there any way to use this and not
> > “chop it up / deagg” to use for ptp/loopbacks ?
>
> i take real
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:07 AM vom513 wrote:
> As I said in the tl;dr - my main point of contention here is breaking up my
> /24 I.e. use the very top /30s / /31s for ptp/loop. I would then have at
> most the bottom /25 to use contig. on my “lan” - and I would need to use the
> next /26,
On 3/26/2021 12:01 PM, vom513 wrote:
Hello,
tl;dr - If I only have a /24 PI - is there any way to use this and not “chop it
up / deagg” to use for ptp/loopbacks ?
Hopefully I can explain this in a manner that makes sense.
Say I have a vanilla dual router/dual upstream setup (think
Hi,
On 3/25/21 8:28 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
I think you will find that most SMTP / anti-spam focused RBL tools
give a very similar result for IP reputation on a per /24 block basis
Since I started working as an IPv4 Broker I've done tens of thousands of
scans (for blocks of IPs) in hundreds of
> tl;dr - If I only have a /24 PI - is there any way to use this and not
> “chop it up / deagg” to use for ptp/loopbacks ?
i take real addresses out of the /24 for p2p
i take 1918 addresses for ibgp loopbacks
randy
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Hello,
tl;dr - If I only have a /24 PI - is there any way to use this and not “chop it
up / deagg” to use for ptp/loopbacks ?
Hopefully I can explain this in a manner that makes sense.
Say I have a vanilla dual router/dual upstream setup (think enterprise internet
edge).
It’s basically an
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in 2010, the internet society made some videos on possible internet
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can be seen for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB4zfGwctGc
randy
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