Re: Theorical question about cyclic dependency in IRR filtering

2021-11-29 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Coin phrase ... IRR (dedup) -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Nov 29, 2021, at 07:17, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: > >  > Hi Anurag, > > Circular dependencies definitely are a thing to

Re: Class D addresses? was: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public

2021-11-29 Thread Greg Skinner via NANOG
> On Nov 24, 2021, at 5:08 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 4:36 PM David Conrad wrote: >>> I like research but what would the RIRs study? The percentage of the >> >> Lots of people said similar things when 1.0.0.0/8 was allocated to APNIC >> and they said similar things

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-29 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 23:25 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 11/29/21 03:33, Masataka Ohta wrote: > >> The end result was that our DNS servers became unreachable even though they >> were still operational. This made it impossible for the rest of the internet >> to find our servers. > > So

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-29 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 23:19 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 11/29/21 00:41, scott wrote: > >> Side note: I recently tried to get /48 per customer with ARIN on repeated >> emails and they refused. We were already given an IPv6 block a while back. >> I told them I wanted to expand it so I

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-29 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 15:51 , Mark Andrews wrote: > > > >> On 29 Nov 2021, at 09:41, scott wrote: >> >> >> On 11/28/2021 9:47 AM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >>> Why not properly assign /48s to customers and /40s to cities? >>>

Re: Theorical question about cyclic dependency in IRR filtering

2021-11-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:14 AM Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: > Hi Anurag, > > Circular dependencies definitely are a thing to keep in mind when > designing IRR and RPKI pipelines! > > In the case of IRR: It is quite rare to query the RIR IRR services > directly. Instead, the common practise is

Re: Theorical question about cyclic dependency in IRR filtering

2021-11-29 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
Hi Anurag, Circular dependencies definitely are a thing to keep in mind when designing IRR and RPKI pipelines! In the case of IRR: It is quite rare to query the RIR IRR services directly. Instead, the common practise is that utilities such as bgpq3, peval, and bgpq4 query “IRRd”

Theorical question about cyclic dependency in IRR filtering

2021-11-29 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hello everyone, While discussing IRR on some groups recently, I was thinking if there can be (and if there is) cycling dependency in filtering where IRR (run by whoever APNIC, RIPE, RADB etc) uses some upstream and accepts only routes with existing & valid route object. So hypothetical case

RE: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-29 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
I remember when I was a junior in a major NOC, we had this management host with a local hosts file for all critical components. Probably worth reviewing some old school techniques.  If you can automate your gazillion routers business, you probably can also automate a couple of hosts

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-29 Thread Baldur Norddahl
man. 29. nov. 2021 02.12 skrev Masataka Ohta < mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>: > > > > The only way to truly reduce Opex at scale is automation. > > Automation by what? DNS? > > Masataka Ohta > Most of our customers are provisioned by Radius.