Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-14 Thread Shane Ronan
I think you'd be very surprised if you walked into the central offices of MANY of the large LECs. The majority of the wire frames are gone, replaced with fiber, even where the service is delivered as copper to the end user, it's usually served from something fiber fed much closer to the end user.

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-14 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 4/14/22 2:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I know I'm discussing what some consider ancient technology. I counter that it meets or exceeds the needs of many, many people. As people say, "if it isn't broken, don't fix it". -- That being said, I believe the third stanza is missing; "Optimize

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-14 Thread Martin Hannigan
Its not ancient. While cooper based products are slowly fading they still matter. Im using 66 blocks to accommodate gauge/voltage for dial tone in all facilities. Lots of OOB still happens via copper dial tone or DSL. Show me one LEC that has torn down their wire frame? We bought new. Im seeing

Re: Ready to compromise? was RE: V6 still not supported

2022-04-14 Thread Abraham Y. Chen
Dear Pascal: 1)    I had a quick look at the below updated draft. I presume Figure 2 is intended to address my request. Since each IPv4 address has 4 bytes, what are the 12 bytes allocated for IPv4 header fields (outer) and (inner), each? Aren't they the standard first 12 bytes of packet

Keep Ukraine Connected

2022-04-14 Thread Markus
Hi NANOG, for those wanting to help - please see below and https://keepukraineconnected.org for an up-to-date list of needed equipment. Also: "Our contacts in Ukraine are desperately seeking professional grade fiber splicers. If you think you can help, either by donating equipment or

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-14 Thread Shawn L via NANOG
I'd still go with telect-style blocks. Wire-wrap on the front and amphenol on the back/bottom depending you application. Way less space than 66 or 110. -Original Message- From: "Dave Phelps" Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 4:27pm To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG" Subject: Re: Copper

Re: ping across infomart ix, please

2022-04-14 Thread Randy Bush
>> could someone who sees 198.180.152.0/24 (as 4128) over equinix infomart >> please ping 198.189.152.132 (and trace) and respond to me privately? > > sigh. cat on lap syndrome > > s/198.189.152.132/198.180.152.132/ thanks tim jackson. got what we needed. randy

Re: ping across infomart ix, please

2022-04-14 Thread Randy Bush
> could someone who sees 198.180.152.0/24 (as 4128) over equinix infomart > please ping 198.189.152.132 (and trace) and respond to me privately? sigh. cat on lap syndrome s/198.189.152.132/198.180.152.132/

ping across infomart ix, please

2022-04-14 Thread Randy Bush
could someone who sees 198.180.152.0/24 (as 4128) over equinix infomart please ping 198.189.152.132 (and trace) and respond to me privately? thanks. rand

Re: Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-14 Thread Dave Phelps
Hi Mike. I used Krone blocks back in the mid 90s. I really liked them. I'm afraid now your long-term options now are probably straight old 66 or 110 blocks. 66 blocks give some added flexibility. 110s are more efficient as far as space consumed compared to 66 blocks. Krone and 110s have a very

Copper Termination Blocks

2022-04-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I know I'm discussing what some consider ancient technology. I counter that it meets or exceeds the needs of many, many people. Currently, we use 100-pr Telect-style termination blocks. They don't offer much in terms of ease of use for testing and don't organize well on a 19" or 23" rack. I

Re: fs.com Ethernet switches

2022-04-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Using a cheap POE switch. I'm pretty happy with it since it's cheap. It's a bit noisy with a small load would be my only complaint - I suspect it's the same volume at full load. No management/layer 3 features on mine nor do I want them. I don't know if L2 only means you want management or not.

Re: fs.com Ethernet switches

2022-04-14 Thread Paschal Masha
Same experience here. So far so good and their TAC is efficient. I had to disable MCLAG settings due to a strange behavior with multicast. Something that appeared unpleasing- at least to me - is the fact that the separate MPLS license doesn't support PIM when activated. Regards Paschal

Re: fs.com Ethernet switches

2022-04-14 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Richard Angeletti said: > Wondering if anyone on the list has any experiences with fs.com Ethernet > switches that they are willing to share (good or bad)? > > We're looking for some cost effective L2 only 10Gb-T switches and their > S58XX switches have come up as a potential

fs.com Ethernet switches

2022-04-14 Thread Richard Angeletti
Wondering if anyone on the list has any experiences with fs.com Ethernet switches that they are willing to share (good or bad)? We're looking for some cost effective L2 only 10Gb-T switches and their S58XX switches have come up as a potential option. Thanks, Rich