Re: FYI - 2FA to be come mandatory for ARIN Online? (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation on Requiring Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) for ARIN Online Accounts

2022-05-28 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
I use google auth for several forced 2FA sites and a few sites where what I am protecting is worth the hassle. One difficulty that quickly emerges is managing and finding the correct Totp in the long unsorted list. It’s no big deal when you have 6 or even 10, but as it approaches 100 different

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-05-28 Thread bzs
Maybe someone mentioned this in the current go-around but it seems we discussed this going back to when post-dialup became available, and before, regarding campus always-on links. There are different underlying business models possible with different bandwidths. The major split is whether you

Re: FYI - 2FA to be come mandatory for ARIN Online? (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation on Requiring Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) for ARIN Online Accounts

2022-05-28 Thread goemon--- via NANOG
On Sat, 28 May 2022, Jim Popovitch via NANOG wrote: On Sat, 2022-05-28 at 11:36 -0700, Randy Bush wrote:   I am not in the ARIN region but I have attended few Arin meetings.   As a comment, I live a country were mobile roaming does not exists, therefore, when 2FA only works with SMS I can not

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-05-28 Thread Fred Baker
Sounds like a comment made on the FCC TAC in 1994: “there is no broadband market above 1 MBPS.” Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways... > On May 28, 2022, at 1:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > >  >> >> Saying most people don't need more than 25 Mbps is like saying 640k is >>

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-05-28 Thread Randy Bush
> Saying most people don't need more than 25 Mbps is like saying 640k is > enough for anybody. somewhere around here i have saved the early '90s message (from a self-important person still on this list) saying africa will not need anything more than fidonet. whole new classes of use emerge when

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-05-28 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Mike Hammett said: > Most households have no practical use for more than 25 megs. More is better, > but let's not just throw money into a fire because of a marketing machine. 4K TVs are cheap, and 4K streaming content is plentiful, and usually runs 15-20 Mbps. The average

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-05-28 Thread Mike Hammett via NANOG
Most households have no practical use for more than 25 megs. More is better, but let's not just throw money into a fire because of a marketing machine. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message

Re: FYI - 2FA to be come mandatory for ARIN Online? (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation on Requiring Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) for ARIN Online Accounts

2022-05-28 Thread Jim Popovitch via NANOG
On Sat, 2022-05-28 at 11:36 -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > >   I am not in the ARIN region but I have attended few Arin meetings. > >   As a comment, I live a country were mobile roaming does not > > exists, > > therefore, when 2FA only works with SMS I can not use the service. > > Having > > said

Re: FYI - 2FA to be come mandatory for ARIN Online? (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation on Requiring Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) for ARIN Online Accounts

2022-05-28 Thread Randy Bush
> I am not in the ARIN region but I have attended few Arin meetings. > As a comment, I live a country were mobile roaming does not exists, > therefore, when 2FA only works with SMS I can not use the service. Having > said that, please consider at least one more way to perform 2FA, maybe send >

Re: FYI - 2FA to be come mandatory for ARIN Online? (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation on Requiring Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) for ARIN Online Accounts

2022-05-28 Thread Alejandro Acosta
Hello, I am not in the ARIN region but I have attended few Arin meetings. As a comment, I live a country were mobile roaming does not exists, therefore, when 2FA only works with SMS I can not use the service. Having said that, please consider at least one more way to perform 2FA, maybe send a

Re: FYI - 2FA to be come mandatory for ARIN Online? (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation on Requiring Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) for ARIN Online Accounts

2022-05-28 Thread John Curran
As a reminder - There could easily be some operational concerns resulting from making 2FA authentication mandatory of which we on the ARIN staff are not aware, so we conduct a consultation. Your voice can be part of that consultation, but again it’s taking place on arin-consult mailing list