Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Michael Thomas
On 6/23/23 4:01 PM, Delong.com via NANOG wrote: The electric grid complaints are about the demand on the grid making the entire region less stable and proposed construction of new high-voltage tower corridors for data centers. Yeah, I can kind of understand those, but as long as the grid is

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023, Delong.com wrote: Northern Virginia has about 275 data centers There’s probably close to that number in the South Bay Area of California as well. California is well-known for its state enviromental laws and zoning, so some of the issues with the 'wild-west' zoning of

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Delong.com via NANOG
> On Jun 23, 2023, at 15:17, Sean Donelan wrote: > > > Northern Virginia has about 275 data centers There’s probably close to that number in the South Bay Area of California as well. > The noise complaints are about HVAC fan noise (24-hour droning) from cooling > towers or roof top farms

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Joel Halpern
I will note that the grid in Loudoun county (arguably the center of the Northern Virginia data center boom) has actually gotten a LOT better than it was when I first moved here.  Some of that was rebuild started before the surge, due to just how bad it was.  But I am fairly sure that some of

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Sean Donelan
Northern Virginia has about 275 data centers The noise complaints are about HVAC fan noise (24-hour droning) from cooling towers or roof top farms of evaporative condensers. The water complaints are about the one-use water cooling towers The electric grid complaints are about the demand on

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:36 PM Delong.com wrote: > > > > On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:19, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:16 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > > > I view throwing everything into NOVA as being lazy. Throwing so many at one > place isn't good for resiliency. > > >

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 3:57 PM William Herrin wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:19 PM Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > The discussions in local news (in nova) seem to center around: > > "but the noise!" > > > > i'm sure it'll work out in the end, but ... gonna be fun to watch. > > There is

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Delong.com via NANOG
> On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:19, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:16 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: >> >> I view throwing everything into NOVA as being lazy. Throwing so many at one >> place isn't good for resiliency. > > there's nyc and chicago and

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:19 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > The discussions in local news (in nova) seem to center around: > "but the noise!" > > i'm sure it'll work out in the end, but ... gonna be fun to watch. There is apparently a problem in nearby West Virginia where someone built a

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:16 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > > I view throwing everything into NOVA as being lazy. Throwing so many at one > place isn't good for resiliency. there's nyc and chicago and california :) (and dallas) but.. :) The discussions in local news (in nova) seem to center around:

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2023-06-23 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

2023-06-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I view throwing everything into NOVA as being lazy. Throwing so many at one place isn't good for resiliency. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Sean Donelan" To:

Re: 429 Too Many Requests

2023-06-23 Thread Daniel Marks via NANOG
Have you reached out to Fastly? They’re pretty quick to throttle in my experience.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 23, 2023, at 00:13, Joshua Pool via NANOG wrote:Anyone ever had to deal with etsy.com returning 429 for all subnets? We have very little traffic going to etsy at any given moment but every