Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Pascal Masha
AFRINIC has the right to reclaim those resources should it prove that usage of such is not in any way beneficial to the continent in which it's mandated to operate and support. We will not defend CI or Lu Heng for persisting in this, we the members felt it's a blackmail and the action taken by AFRN

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I'm not quite sure that we agree on the meaning of "legitimate application" when a HK based corporate entity is using and claiming permanent rights to AFRINIC IP space, primarily for ISP operations in east asia. There have been multiple well documented instances of AFRINIC insiders with privileged

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Delong.com via NANOG
Noe… You are conflating two completely different cases, sir. CI submitted legitimate applications and their addresses were issued prior to Ernest’s activities. You’re mixing Lu Heng up with Elad Cohen. Owen > On Sep 15, 2023, at 16:32, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > https://www.devdiscourse.com/art

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/international/1813989-the-strange-case-of-africas-stolen-ip-addresses https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Ernest+Byaruhanga+afrinic On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 4:30 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > AFRINIC legitimately issued those (closer to 6M) IP addr

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
> AFRINIC legitimately issued those (closer to 6M) IP addresses to Cloud Innovation based on justifications submitted. AFRINIC then attempted, using claims that usage out of region is not permitted by the bylaws (It is not prohibited by the bylaws, feel free to read them yourself), to reclaim those

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> CI didn’t sue AFRINIC for nothing. AFRINIC, in violation of the actual text > of their bylaws attempted > to revoke CI space and created major disruptions to a number of networks in > the process. Had CI > not received the injunctions they got from the courts, likely the disruption > would hav

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Delong.com via NANOG
> On Sep 15, 2023, at 15:05, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > A much better explanation of the situation can be found at: > > https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/03/nrs_afrinic_review/ > > I also recommend that everyone who is not yet familiar with the issue google > Lu Heng and Cloud Innovations, the

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Steve Sullivan
XX  was running for a Board Seat at APNIC and may have been in attendance in the recent APNIC conference. Very controversial stuff there, with lessons to be learned and remembered and situations to be avoided at all costs. Corruption and $$$. On 9/15/2023 3:05 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: A mu

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
A much better explanation of the situation can be found at: https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/03/nrs_afrinic_review/ I also recommend that everyone who is not yet familiar with the issue google Lu Heng and Cloud Innovations, the Hong Kong based corporate entity in question which caused this. h

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Niels Bakker
* nanog@nanog.org (Owen DeLong via NANOG) [Fri 15 Sep 2023, 19:26 CEST]: On Sep 15, 2023, at 06:30, Noah wrote: On Fri, 15 Sept 2023, 15:53 John Curran, wrote: Indeed, that was a less than ideal situation – but I will note that the technical advisor was sent away by the Receiver once the Rec

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2023-09-15 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG UKNOF, TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bg

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Sep 15, 2023, at 06:30, Noah wrote: > > > > On Fri, 15 Sept 2023, 15:53 John Curran, > wrote: >> Noah - >> >> Indeed, that was a less than ideal situation – but I will note that the >> technical advisor was sent away by the Receiver once the Receiver was >>

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread John Curran
That’s a legal question, and so should be answered by a lawyer of competent jurisdiction… I am not such an individual, but I do understand that for parties that have a bona fide business interest with AFRINIC, it should be possible to contact the honorable receiver in order to obtain clarity o

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Collider
Are amicus briefs a thing in the court governing AFRINIC's operations? Le 15 septembre 2023 15:27:33 UTC, John Curran a écrit : >Noah - > >I have had serious concerns with the operational risk posed by AFRINIC’s lack >of governance body and lack of CEO – and thus have provided updates to NANOG

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread John Curran
Noah - I have had serious concerns with the operational risk posed by AFRINIC’s lack of governance body and lack of CEO – and thus have provided updates to NANOG several times to keep the community informed – but now there is finally a clear path to resolution; a situation that I see as far bet

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Noah
On Fri, 15 Sept 2023, 15:53 John Curran, wrote: > Noah - > > Indeed, that was a less than ideal situation – but I will note that the > technical advisor was sent away by the Receiver once the Receiver was > apprised of his litigation against AFRINIC. > John It was not a less than ideal situatio

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread John Curran
Noah - Indeed, that was a less than ideal situation – but I will note that the technical advisor was sent away by the Receiver once the Receiver was apprised of his litigation against AFRINIC. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers On Sep 15, 2023,

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Noah
On Fri, 15 Sept 2023, 15:06 John Curran, wrote: > Indeed - AFRINIC has been going through quite a bit over the few months – > including loss of their governing board – but the receiver appointment > actually provides a fairly straightforward path towards resolution. > John, The receiver appoint

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 9:04 AM John Curran wrote: > > Indeed - AFRINIC has been going through quite a bit over the few months – > including loss of their governing board – but the receiver appointment > actually provides a fairly straightforward path towards resolution. > > See the NRO statemen

Re: Canadian regulator CRTC hires private company to investigate 2022 Rogers outage

2023-09-15 Thread Mark Prosser
The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) confirmed in an email it hired engineering consultant Xona Partners in May to provide a report on the Rogers network and "help inform what further regulatory action is needed." I think we all know the "regulatory action"

Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

2023-09-15 Thread John Curran
Indeed - AFRINIC has been going through quite a bit over the few months – including loss of their governing board – but the receiver appointment actually provides a fairly straightforward path towards resolution. See the NRO statement on this matter for specifics. Thanks! /John John Curran Pre