Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-13 Thread Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG
Dave Taht's question about all the redundant fiber that was put down in the telecom bubble is a very interesting one. It would be nice if some folks on the list could provide some solid information, even if only for one large carrier. My impression, from communications with various folks, is

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-07 Thread Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG
Yes, human impatience and peace of mind do matter. But willingness to pay is not unlimited. There is an argument, presented in my paper "The volume and value of information," in the International Journal of Communication in 2012, https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/1570/740 that

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-05-26 Thread Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG
Yes, definitely. But some of those criteria can be combined into one, namely "transaction latency," how long it takes to get something done. Which includes things like uploading a video clip, or a complicated PowerPoint deck, and (behind the scenes from the standpoint of the end user) lots of

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-05-23 Thread Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG
Yes! Some other ways to the basic idea are that The function of data networks is to satisfy human impatience. and The goal is to minimize transaction latency. Once you accept either one, the conclusion that follows is that there is no limit to potential demand (which, however, as always,

Re: Alacarte Cable and Geeks

2010-12-18 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
It's an interesting question. Even leaving aside the question of billing costs, there are conflicting incentives. Service providers want to extract maximal revenues, but that requires not just fine-scaled pricing, but very overt and fine-scaled price discrimination (which may often be

off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth myths

2010-08-11 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
Since several members of this list requested it, here is a summary of the responses to my request for information about Internet growth during the telecom bubble, in particular the perceptions of the O'Dell/Sidgmore/WorldCom/UUNet Internet doubling every 100 days myth. First of all, many

Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-11 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
! --Jessica From: Kenny Sallee kenny.sal...@gmail.com To: Jessica Yu jyy...@yahoo.com; Andrew Odlyzko odly...@umn.edu Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 4:01:00 PM Subject: Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble On Fri, Aug 6

Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-08 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
Fascinating. Memories may be plastic (something that has been established scientifically), or else we may have yet another inconsistency to add to the pile of others. Is there any documentation about the doubling every nine months? I have never seen that particular claim emanating from anyone

Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-06 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
Jorge, Many thanks for the comments. To the entire NANOG list: I have received many comments, a few through the list, most off-list. I greatly appreciate all, and will be responding to them all off-list, since this is not an operational matter. If there is interest, I can summarize for the

Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-06 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
From: Andrew Odlyzko odly...@umn.edu To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 11:38:38 AM Subject: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble Apologies for intruding with this question, but I can't think of any group that might have more concrete information

off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-05 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
will settle for more informal comments, and promise confidentiality to anyone who requests it. Andrew Odlyzko odly...@umn.edu http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzko/doc/mania03.pdf Bubbles, gullibility, and other challenges for economics, psychology, sociology

RE: Comcast blocking p2p uploads

2007-10-19 Thread Andrew Odlyzko
malicious hackers? Andrew Odlyzko On Fri Oct 19, Scott Berkman wrote: I agree, they have been doing this in select locations for some time. I live in Atlanta and have seen this happening for about the 3 months, but I have friends in the suburbs that have (or had) no issues. I imagine