RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-22 Thread Ben S. Butler
implemented as an opt in system that could be used if operators choose to that would keep all three groups of AS operators happy. Ben -Original Message- From: Ben S. Butler Sent: 16 November 2012 00:54 To: 'Matthew Petach'; Ben S. Butler Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: What is BCP re

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-15 Thread Ben S. Butler
. /snip Thoughts...? Ben -Original Message- From: Ben S. Butler Sent: 15 November 2012 00:05 To: 'Michael Smith'; William Herrin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums. Hi, Again, I thought the discussion was about

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-15 Thread Ben S. Butler
Hi, Ok. I am trying to encourage an inclusive exploration of an issue that seems to be emergent. I am trying to get the community to articulate BCP not dictate it. Would you want this logic to still apply if you have ::/0 in your table anywhere? Yes obviously limits would apply to the filter

What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Ben S. Butler
Hi, I am hoping for a bit of advice. We are rolling out IPv6 en mass now to peers and I am finding that our strict IPv6 ingress prefix filter is meaning a lot of peers are sending me zero prefixes. Upon investigation I determine they have de-agregrated their /32 for routing reasons / non

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Ben S. Butler
[mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2012 13:25 To: Ben S. Butler Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Ben S. Butler ben.but...@c2internet.netmailto:ben.but...@c2internet.net wrote: 3 Don't

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Ben S. Butler
Hi, Yes, nice. But... It does not address the case when this is not the ISPs customers but the ISP (read content provider) that operates globally but without a network interconnecting their routers. They then advertise a /24 v4 and /48 v6 at each Internet exchange that they are connected to.

RE: What is BCP re De-Aggregation: strict filtering /48s out of /32 RIR minimums.

2012-11-14 Thread Ben S. Butler
Hi, Again, I thought the discussion was about PI, not PA. I don't announce any PA. My point, which I feel may be getting lost, and for which ARIN may already have policies in place for, is that an IP assignment is made out of a block with a defined minimum assignment size. Now some people