Re: do not filter your customers

2012-02-24 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
1. Make your customers register routes, then filter them. (may be time for big providers to put routing tools into open source for the good of the community - make it less hard?) 2. Implement the 1-hop hack to protect your BGP peering. 98% of problem solved on the Internet

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 13/08/2011, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal backup. my life is on a 13 macbook air, all data, mail back decades (i do not save all mail), etc. the whole drive is encrypted, my main reason for moving to

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-13 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
guys became clueful in the new tech, but as a friend frequently says Your network, your choice. -jim On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Jeffrey S. Young yo...@jsyoung.net wrote: On 12/08/2011, at 12:08 AM, CJ cjinfant...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome, I was thinking the same thing. Most

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-13 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 13/08/2011, at 10:48 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you list the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF? att is-is in ntt, sprint, verizon, ... randy ATT's backbone is the old SBC backbone? Finding OSPF here

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-12 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 12/08/2011, at 12:08 AM, CJ cjinfant...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome, I was thinking the same thing. Most experience is OSPF so it only makes sense. That is a good tip about OSPFv3 too. I will have to look more deeply into OSPFv3. Thanks, -CJ On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM, jim

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-12 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 13/08/2011, at 11:08 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: Beyond that, a nice home file server, rsynced to something in a real data center each night. This a combo of backup plus high speed access no matter which side of the home connection you are on. I currently use a PC I built

Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

2011-06-22 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 23/06/2011, at 8:07 AM, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: Be that as it may, I don't think current methods and techniques in use = will scale well to fully replace antennas, satellite and cable to = provide tv and radio signals. =20 (remembering for example the recent discussion about

Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

2011-05-18 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 19/05/2011, at 6:01 AM, Holmes,David A dhol...@mwdh2o.com wrote: I think this shows the need for an Internet-wide multicast implementation. Although I can recall working on a product that delivered satellite multicast streams (with each multicast group corresponding to individual TV

Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone?

2011-05-08 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 08/05/2011, at 4:10 PM, Michael Dillon wavetos...@googlemail.com wrote: Many years ago I was the MCI side of the Real Broadcast Network. Real Networks arranged to broadcast a Rolling Stones concert. We had the ability to multicast on the Mbone and unicast from Real Networks caches.

Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone?

2011-05-04 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 04/05/2011, at 1:54 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: Multicast is an elegant solution to a dwindling problem set. And that is fundamentally where we disagree. I see this as not elegant at all. It is a fundamental part of the protocol suite. It is no more elegant than

Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...)

2011-04-30 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 30/04/2011, at 5:44 AM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: Delivering multicast to end users is fundamentally not hard. The biggest issue seems to be with residential CPE (pretty much the same problem as IPv6, really). Well, more than that, since I don't really want my DSL pipe saturated

Re: The growth of municipal broadband networks

2011-03-27 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 27/03/2011, at 6:35 PM, Michael Painter tvhaw...@shaka.com wrote: Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 26, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com As such, I'm sure that such a move would be vocally opposed by the current owners of the

Re: Regional AS model

2011-03-24 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
Multiple AS, one per region, is about extracting maximum revenue from your client base. In 2000 we had no technical reason to do it, I can't see a technical reason to do it today. This is a layer 8/9 issue. jy On 25/03/2011, at 5:42 AM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote: I have seen age old

Re: Regional AS model

2011-03-24 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
this capability years ago the notion of a CDN based on anycasting would be viable in a multi-provider environment. Maybe time to revive that idea? jy On 25/03/2011, at 8:45 AM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Jeffrey S. Young wrote: Multiple AS, one per

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-20 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 20/12/2010, at 12:25 AM, JC Dill jcdill.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/12/10 8:31 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, JC Dilljcdill.li...@gmail.com said: Why not open up the market for telco wiring and just see what happens? There might be 5 or perhaps even 10 players who try to

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-20 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 20/12/2010, at 1:22 PM, JC Dill jcdill.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/12/10 9:19 AM, Jeffrey S. Young wrote: Having lived through the telecom bubble (as many of us did) what makes you believe that player 6 is going to know about the financial conditions of players 1-5? What if player

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-19 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
one of the most interesting things about coming to Australia (after working in the USA telecom industry for 20 years) was the opportunity to see such a proposal (the NBN) put into practice. who knows if the NBN will be quite what everyone hopes, but the premise is sound, the last mile is a

Re: Alacarte Cable and Geeks

2010-12-17 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 17/12/2010, at 1:17 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Original Message - From: JC Dill jcdill.li...@gmail.com On 17/12/10 4:54 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: I do believe that video over the Internet is about to change the cable business in a very deep and

Re: Online games stealing your bandwidth

2010-09-25 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
t On 26/09/2010, at 6:43 AM, Matthew Walster matt...@walster.org wrote: On 25 September 2010 21:16, Rodrick Brown rodrick.br...@gmail.com wrote: I think most people are aware that the Blizzard World of WarcCraft patcher distributes files through Bittorrent, snip I once read an article

Re: off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth History

2010-08-12 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
MCI and BT had a long courtship. BT left MCI standing at the altar after neighborhoodMCI (a consumer last mile play) announced $400M in losses, twice. WorldCom swooped in after that. jy On 12/08/2010, at 12:12 PM, jim deleskie deles...@gmail.com wrote: CIP went with BT (Concert) I still

Re: off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth History

2010-08-12 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
N3 = new network nodes, BIPP wasn't that great a name either. The ASN was always 3561. jy On 12/08/2010, at 8:20 AM, Benson Schliesser bens...@queuefull.net wrote: On 11 Aug 10, at 2:10 PM, Chris Boyd wrote: My recollection is that Worldcom bought out MFS. UUnet was a later

Re: off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth History

2010-08-11 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
Worldcom bought MFS. Worldcom bought MCI. Worldcom bought UUnet. In your statement s/MCI/Worldcom/g I don't know if UUnet was part of Worldcom when MO first made statements about backbone growth, but I do know that internetMCI was still part of MCI and therefore, MCI was not a part of

Re: off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth History

2010-08-11 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
BIPP was sold to CW where it continued to use MCI transmission and facilities. In November 2000, CW had rebuilt it on their own facilities (just a bit larger). Quite soon after the completion of the new network in 2000, CW marketing was forecasting the need for a network that was ten times