RE: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-05 Thread Michael Sokolov
Nathan Eisenberg nat...@atlasnetworks.us wrote: As someone who was personally connected to this (http://www.komonews.com/ne= ws/local/78088192.html), and this, http://www.komonews.com/news/local/68320= 537.html I feel pretty justified in telling you to keep this 'shoot a pig' = crap off the

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

2010-12-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: If you get a court order I guess you have two choices, one is to comply with it and the other get used to wear a nice pair of matching bracelets until your attorney shows up. Option 3: unleash your full firepower against the miscreants who have dared to

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Sokolov
Jacob Broussard shadowedstran...@gmail.com wrote: Wow... Reading this thread I feel like some sort of time traveler, what with my cable internet, multicore processor, and smartphone. Just in case it isn't clear, I use all of my ancient computing and network technology by a *very* deliberate

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Sokolov
Gary Baribault g...@baribault.net wrote: And you live in a cabin in the woods, pedal a generator to get the router up and the router is connected to a 56K Dial-up morem? I have never used those 56K dial-up modems because they are asymmetric: it's only 56K in the downstream direction, and I

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo carlosm3...@gmail.com wrote: Not only token ring. I know of some coaxial ethernets that were running as late as 2007. The network I am using to compose and post this message right now is a coaxial Ethernet. MS

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo carlosm3...@gmail.com wrote: Hats off!! You should post some pictures! As in ASCII art pictures? Because my life revolves around ASCII text and I abhor anything that isn't ASCII text, I do not own a camera of any kind, never have and likely never will. MS

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Michael Painter tvhaw...@shaka.com wrote: Thick or Thin? Thin. I *so* wish I had thick coaxial Ethernet, but alas, my present physical facility is just too small for that: my present coax Ethernet network is contained within a single machine room which is a converted bedroom. MS

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
I wrote: : Thin. I *so* wish I had thick coaxial Ethernet, but alas, my present : physical facility is just too small for that: my present coax Ethernet : network is contained within a single machine room which is a converted : bedroom. Forgot to add: this thin coax Ethernet interconnects

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-17 Thread Michael Sokolov
Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: There really isn't a lot of choice, 2 providers, and some minor choice in how much speed you want to pay for with each one. Does that mean no CLECs like Covad or DSL.net who colocate in the ATT CO, rent unbundled dry copper pairs and take it up from there

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-17 Thread Michael Sokolov
Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: Part of the reason for this is U-Verse is FTTN, Fiber to the Node. ATT has run fiber to my neighborhood, I believe the node in my case is about 1000 feet away (I drive past it on the way out). The electronics sit there, so the old model of colocating in

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
OK, I'll bite and add my 2 Russian kopecks to the Cisco vs. Linux router thread. To make it clear where I'm coming from, I see the networking world from the viewpoint of non-Ethernet WAN interfaces. A world consisting of nothing but Ethernet is too bland and boring for me to live in, and I

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Adrian Chadd adr...@creative.net.au wrote: FreeBSD netgraph. It's clean, it's generalised, it's just not very well documented. [...] Have a chat to the FreeBSD community. There's a powerpc port. Shoehorn FreeBSD into it somehow, help tidy up the code to do whateveer you need and start

Re: What is The Internet TCP/IP or UNIX-to-UNIX ?

2010-04-05 Thread Michael Sokolov
Jim Mercer j...@reptiles.org wrote: if the script determined an email was X bytes (100k?), the message body was rewritten with: Contents removed at LSUC, email is not a file transport protocol. and the mail was left to continue on its path. i kinda feel like adding the same script back

Juniper's artificial feature blocking (was legacy /8)

2010-04-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Tore Anderson tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com wrote: Juniper. If you want to run OSPFv3 on their layer 3 switches, you need a quite expensive advanced licence. OSPFv2, on the other hand, is included in the base licence. Really? My level of respect for Juniper has just dropped a few

Re: what about 48 bits?

2010-04-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org wrote: Has anybody considered lobbying the IEEE to do a point to point version of Ethernet to gets rid of addressing fields? [...] Actually the minimum 64 byte packet size could probably go too, as that was only there for

Re: Is TDM going the way of dial-up?

2010-03-29 Thread Michael Sokolov
Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: And, if you are using a 1988 TCP stack on a 4.3 system, you are not likely to ever efficiently utilize a higher speed link What higher speed link? I'm very happy with 384 kbps symmetric, using SDSL as ARPANET replacement. I have designed and built my own

Re: Is TDM going the way of dial-up?

2010-03-26 Thread Michael Sokolov
Rick Ernst na...@shreddedmail.com wrote: I've noticed over the last 3 years or so that TDM, specifically T-1, access and transport has been in a steady decline. Customers are moving to FTTH and cable, or going WiMAX and Metro-Ethernet. Ethernet seems to have taken an even bigger bite out of

Re: CSIRT - Backbone Security : Runtime Monitoring and DynamicReconfiguration for Intrusion Detection Systems

2010-03-17 Thread Michael Sokolov
My spammy sense is going nuts just at the whole ALL CAPS of this guy's last name. I thought all-uppercase last names were a traditional French convention... This guy is French, isn't he? - judging by his name. His habit of addressing everyone as Mister is peculiar indeed, but maybe he is

Any old Nokia DSLAMs gathering dust?

2010-03-17 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello NANOGers, I wonder, would anyone here happen to have an unused Nokia / Diamond Lane Speedlink DSLAM chassis that's laying around gathering dust and which you wouldn't mind donating to an open source xDSL CPE project? Just wondering if anyone here might perchance have one they are trying to

SDSL vs T1 (was Locations with no good Internet)

2010-03-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
Patrick Giagnocavo patr...@zill.net wrote: Isn't this really an issue (political) with tariffed T1 prices rather than a technical problem? Yes, of course. It's even worse if you are tied to one particular ISP (VZB) by non-portable IP addresses. I wanted service from AS701 with a V.35

Re: SDSL vs T1 (was Locations with no good Internet)

2010-03-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
Roy r.engehau...@gmail.com wrote: You missed an option. Just change to another ISP. I know of at least one AS701 address block still attached to a company that hasn't been their customer for ten years or so. How is that possible? AFAIK no local politician has passed an IP address

Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

2010-03-03 Thread Michael Sokolov
Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: The biggest problem is middle mile. That is where the money needs to go. You need something to back haul to the interwebz. There is a lot of fiber in the ground already, Another possible way to solve the middle mile issue would again be to use

Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

2010-02-26 Thread Michael Sokolov
Daniel Senie d...@senie.com wrote: Better than western Massachusetts, where there's just no connectivity at = all. Even dialup fails to function over crappy lines. Hmm. Although I've never been to Western MA and hence have no idea what the telecom situation is like over there, I'm certainly

Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

2010-02-26 Thread Michael Sokolov
Brandon Galbraith brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote: Get dry loops from the ILEC and place repeaters at strategic points? I guess I need a little more education on how the process of ordering dry pairs from an ILEC works. I thought it works like this: 1. You have to be colocated in the CO to

Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

2010-02-26 Thread Michael Sokolov
Brandon Galbraith brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rric.net/ I'm very familiar with those folks of course, they've been an inspiration to me for a long time. However, my needs are different. RRIC's model basically involves a specific community with a well-defined boundary: bring

Re: Using /31 for router links

2010-01-23 Thread Michael Sokolov
Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org wrote: What about NAT, ATM cell tax, unnecessary addressing fields in PTP protocols (including your beloved HDLC), SSAP, DSAP fields not being big enough in 802.2 necessitating SNAP, IPX directly over 802.3, AAL1 through

Re: Using /31 for router links

2010-01-23 Thread Michael Sokolov
Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org wrote: Ah, but who's to say that all PTP links are WANs? Are you really going to run an OC-48 from one router to another _in the same building_ when you need 1Gb/s between them? Can't say - I have never needed that much bandwidth. :) I still live in an

Re: Using /31 for router links

2010-01-23 Thread Michael Sokolov
Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote: Back in the days of Rhythms and Copper Mountain gear, Netopia had the D series routers which were actually xDSL to DSU units. Yes, I am very familiar with them: http://ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG/OpenSDSL/existing_cpe/netopia/dsu.html As that page explains, they

Re: Using /31 for router links

2010-01-22 Thread Michael Sokolov
Nathan Ward na...@daork.net wrote: ARP is still required on ethernet links, so that the MAC address can be = discovered for use in the ethernet frame header. /31 does not change the = behavior of ARP at all. soapbox That is why I hate Ethernet with a passion. Ethernet should be for LANs

RE: Bonded SDSL (was RE: ITU G.992.5 Annex M - ADSL2+M Questions)

2010-01-05 Thread Michael Sokolov
Frank Bulk - iName.com frnk...@iname.com wrote: It's being done by Actelis, Hatteras, and Zhone. More exactly SHDSL or ^ similar variants. The market is being well-served. ^ The highlighted sentence is

Bonded SDSL (was RE: ITU G.992.5 Annex M - ADSL2+M Questions)

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Frank Bulk - iName.com frnk...@iname.com wrote: We offer it, but practically speaking we haven't gotten much higher than 1.5 Mbps on the upstream. Sorry that I'm coming into this thread late (I have just subscribed), but since I see people discussing DSL with beefy upstream, I thought I would