On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:00:35AM -0700, Steve Gibbard wrote:
[snip]
Here's my problem with this line of reasoning:
We've got a serious volunteer shortage.
In our upcoming board election, we have four candidates for four
open seats. As one of those candidates, I'd like to think that
this
On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Lynda wrote:
On 9/30/2011 11:00 AM, Steve Gibbard wrote:
In our upcoming board election, we have four candidates for four open
seats. As one of those candidates, I'd like to think that this is
because everybody really wants to vote for us, but the most I can
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Wessels, Duane dwess...@verisign.comwrote:
On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Dave Temkin wrote:
Steve,
Can you ensure that you have that budget available before the meeting,
hopefully at least a week before?
Also, can we have the numbers from NANOG 52
On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
Nice transparency.
Thanks.
Would it be possible to see a balance sheet as a standard going forward? This
is good. I'm more interested in a dashboard like report such as a balance
sheet than this board minutia. Not a complaint,
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Wessels, Duane dwess...@verisign.comwrote:
On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
[ snip ]
Can you clarify, would you like to see a balance sheet, say, every meeting,
every quarter, or once per year?
Meetings.
Best,
-M
On 9/30/11 10:28 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Wessels, Duane dwess...@verisign.com
mailto:dwess...@verisign.com wrote:
On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Dave Temkin wrote:
Steve,
Can you ensure that you have that budget available before the
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Steven Feldman feld...@nanog.org wrote:
[Apologies for cross-posting; it turns out many members are not on the
nanog-futures list.]
In our board meeting this week, we decided not to place this on this year's
ballot. We feel that as with other decisions
Steve,
Can you ensure that you have that budget available before the meeting,
hopefully at least a week before?
Also, can we have the numbers from NANOG 52 ASAP?
Thanks!
-Dave
On 9/15/11 7:28 PM, Steven Feldman wrote:
[Apologies for cross-posting; it turns out many members are not on the
I'm perfectly OK with not necessarily codifying this in the bylaws; you're right in that the bylaws doesn't
spell out admission specifically today.
I guess a meta question is - should it? And if it shouldn't, is this just a topic to bring up at the
community meeting and then ask the board to
On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Daniel Golding wrote:
Rather, the loss of revenue to the organization and the
potential drama around the arrangements are pretty significant.
- Daniel Golding
Possible, and I would expect the board to do their own financial analysis of
the impact of this
The SC did not receive comp registration any time while I was serving on it.
It was possible to be comped for one of a few reasons:
1) Host
2) Speaker
3) Merit
4) BG Sponsor (i think they got 2 comp registrations)
5) the ARIN scholarship thing.
I was on the SC and also on a panel in Dallas
I have no problem with speakers getting in free. Speakers may or may
not be active in the community and if you want to continue to draw
quality speakers this is truly the least the community can do. Many
conferences will pick up travel costs, or even token 'gifts' for
speakers. As for
Two comments here:
In the past a human would review and refund speakers if they paid.
A nominal co-pay may be appropriate, even if it's just $10. Students qualify
for lower rates last I recall as well. We are talking about a small number of
people here, at most 1-2 per conference I suspect
I think a co-pay would be be reasonable.If I human manually did a
refund I'm sure the process could ne 'fixed'. It would be interesting
to know how many people, based on paste events this would impact. I
agree in that I as well suspect its a very low number.
-jim
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at
The SC did not receive comp registration any time while I was serving
on it.
aha! sorry. my memory is not what it used to be.
I do feel the need to suggest that Dorian/Randy are on the mark here,
most of these people would pay anyways.
as i said, if nanog has the funds, i would support
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 10:19:34AM -0500, Jorge Amodio wrote:
As others said you are doing a public service to the rest of the
community and if you give a nice and valuable talk you will get the
recognition of the NANOG community and your colleagues, and we can put
into consideration including
For some reason I thought it was 8. My intention was slightly less than the
total, so perhaps 4 or 5 and to not specify a specific amount of time, given
that some committees might meet for fewer hours than others and I wanted to
make sure that everyone was invented to participate, not just the
On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:08 AM, David Temkin wrote:
For some reason I thought it was 8. My intention was slightly less than the
total, so perhaps 4 or 5 and to not specify a specific amount of time, given
that some committees might meet for fewer hours than others and I wanted to
make sure
I gave discretion to two people in the below wording: the committee chair and
the board. My example was hardship but certainly not limited there. The wording
is vague on purpose :-) it allows for discretion.
Jared Mauch
On Sep 1, 2011, at 9:32 AM, David Temkin dav...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm
Dave, I like this idea. It will incent people to come to committee meetings.
This will make the Nanog meetings we all attend better and more productive.
Rose Klimovich
On Aug 31, 2011, at 11:30 AM, David Temkin wrote:
All,
I would like to propose an amendment to the bylaws for the coming
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:49 PM, John Springer sprin...@inlandnet.com wrote:
Hi David,
I have a memory, from the community meetings where the early NEWNOG finances
were being discussed, that it was _ABSOLUTELY_CRITICAL_ that $100/per member
fees be implemented. If we didn't, $reallybadthings
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 07:56:20PM -0400, Dorian Kim wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:30:49AM -0400, David Temkin wrote:
All,
I would like to propose an amendment to the bylaws for the coming election
cycle.
The various committees put in many tireless hours of effort to bring a
i do not support getting paid for community service. a primrose path.
randy
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Hi, team.
i do not support getting paid for community service. a primrose path.
Bravo and agreed!
Thanks,
Rob.
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I have had my registration fee refunded when I was a speaker when my employer
was happy to pay. This frustrated me when the meeting had low registration and
lost money.
I'm fine with people getting it waived, but the idea of everyone showing up for
a roll-call so they can get in free is
I support conference admission for volunteers who give their time to organize
the conference, etc. (such as program committee members, steering committee
members, speakers, etc.).
I would not support other forms of remuneration or expanding the free conference
admission beyond those directly
How is that getting paid?
you're kidding, right?
Don't know if you've ever done Habitat for Humanity
no. i teach in the poor countries. i pay my way.
To bring it closer to home - we give our presenters a free admission -
should we also stop that?
i am ambivalent. i think there is
On the flip side of this, many of our employers donate our time that
they are paying us for in order for us to serve NANOG with nary a
benefit. If you take just committee calls for the PC alone, this is
48 hours a year - a workweek. Perhaps they should feel that this
donation nets them
For context in this discussion, how many times have you personally accepted
free registration in return for presenting?
-Dave
On Sep 1, 2011 8:13 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
On the flip side of this, many of our employers donate our time that
they are paying us for in order for us to
For context in this discussion, how many times have you personally
accepted free registration in return for presenting?
btw, i do not remember a meeting where being comped as an SC member or a
speaker affected whether i would attend or not.
[ and no, senator mccarthy, i am not now nor have i
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
On the flip side of this, many of our employers donate our time that
they are paying us for in order for us to serve NANOG with nary a
benefit. If you take just committee calls for the PC alone, this is
48 hours a year - a
All,
I would like to propose an amendment to the bylaws for the coming election
cycle.
The various committees put in many tireless hours of effort to bring a content
rich, well attended, well sponsored meeting to our attendees. In return they
generally get a free lunch and a brief thank
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:30 AM, David Temkin d...@temk.in wrote:
All,
I would like to propose an amendment to the bylaws for the coming election
cycle.
The various committees put in many tireless hours of effort to bring a
content rich, well attended, well sponsored meeting to our
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