Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40

2022-04-07 Thread John Curran
On 7 Apr 2022, at 12:05 PM, Owen DeLong mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: Alternatively, if ARIN starts billing LRSA+RSA organizations on the basis of MAX(IPv4, IPv6), I will also stop calling this double billing. Mr. Delong – Organizations with legacy IPv4 resources and IPv6 number resources

Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40

2022-04-07 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Apr 7, 2022, at 03:21 , John Curran wrote: > > On 7 Apr 2022, at 1:05 AM, Owen DeLong via NANOG > wrote: >> >>> On Apr 5, 2022, at 15:04 , John Curran >> > wrote: >>> ... >>> Correct - ARIN caps the total registry maintenance fees for

Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40

2022-04-07 Thread John Curran
On 7 Apr 2022, at 1:05 AM, Owen DeLong via NANOG mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: On Apr 5, 2022, at 15:04 , John Curran mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote: ... Correct - ARIN caps the total registry maintenance fees for legacy resource of those who do enter an RSA with ARIN to $150/yr (the cap

Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40

2022-04-06 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Apr 5, 2022, at 15:04 , John Curran wrote: > > >> On 5 Apr 2022, at 5:31 PM, Owen DeLong > > wrote: >>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 17:40 , John Curran >> > wrote: >>> ... >> >>> Interesting – as ARIN’s fee schedule was designed specifically so

Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40

2022-04-05 Thread John Curran
On 5 Apr 2022, at 5:31 PM, Owen DeLong mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: On Apr 4, 2022, at 17:40 , John Curran mailto:jcur...@istaff.org>> wrote: ... Interesting – as ARIN’s fee schedule was designed specifically so that every IPv4 customer can get a corresponding-sized IPv6 block without any

Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40

2022-04-05 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Apr 4, 2022, at 17:40 , John Curran wrote: > > >> On 4 Apr 2022, at 7:42 PM, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) > > wrote: >> >> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: >> >>> I think all of us recognize a need to declaw "third party" IRR databases >>> like RADB

Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40

2022-04-04 Thread John Curran
On 4 Apr 2022, at 9:52 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: > ... > I guess this legacy IP space, which is probably visible in ARIN's whois DB, > but for which they provide no additional services unless you sign a LRSA and > are then on the hook for annual membership fees? ARIN has provided decades of

Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40

2022-04-04 Thread John Curran
> On 4 Apr 2022, at 7:42 PM, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: > >> I think all of us recognize a need to declaw "third party" IRR databases >> like RADB and ALTDB ("declawing" meaning that it is not desirable that >> anyone can just register