Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread andrew.wallace
...@outages.org Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) And continues: “RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2” http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652cat=Politics   Frank

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/ Andrew From: Frank Bulkfrnk...@iname.com To: outa...@outages.org Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) And continues: “RIM'S SERVICE

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Andrew Mulholland
...@outages.org Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) And continues: “RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2” http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652cat=Politics Frank

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Stewart
: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/ Andrew

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Joel jaeggli
, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM To: frnk...@iname.com Cc: outa...@outages.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) RIM shares down as BlackBerry outage continues http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-shares-down-as-blackberry-outage

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, andrew.wallace said: Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage. It ain't sabotage till you rule out misconfigured router. Consider the actual real-world threat models and their likelyhoods: 1)

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know how to factor N+1 just for these types

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Charles Mills
+1 On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Tayeb Meftah
Idiotberry Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 12 oct. 2011 à 17:55, Charles Mills w3y...@gmail.com a écrit : +1 On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core switch. I don't

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Chris Campbell
I think it raises serious questions about RIM's DR strategy if a DB corruption or switch failure or whatever can cause this much outage. 'Surely' RIM have an second site that is independent of the primary (within reason) that they could of flipped to when they realised the DB was borked. If not

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need for N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting in a bad config that gets replicated or something like that. Not saying the hardware is

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter
-Original Message- From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Gatti
: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need for N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Brandt, Ralph
Mechanicsburg PA 17055 -Original Message- From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:52 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) What kills me is what they have told the public

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, andrew.wallace said: Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage. It ain't sabotage till you rule out misconfigured

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
... -- Michael Gatti cell.949.735.5612 ekim.it...@gmail.com (UTC-8) On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: -Original Message- From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services