Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-22 Thread Che-Hoo CHENG
Akamai and Google do have 100Gbps connections to HKIX so traffic volume should not be low, though not majority. Anyway, I did post on FB on that day (Nov 12) when CUHK campus was heavily attacked by the Police that HKIX is not really that critical to HK Internet traffic as there are many Internet

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-22 Thread Che-Hoo CHENG
Some clarifications: The 2 HKIX core sites (hosting the spine switches and the major leaf switches where most participants are connecting to) are located within CUHK campus. There are only 2 leaf switches of HKIX which are located at TKO area. CUHK Campus was heavily attacked by the Police

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-22 Thread Che-Hoo CHENG
PM > To: John Sage > Cc: nanog@nanog.org; b...@theworld.com > Subject: Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over? > > > On November 20, 2019 at 15:11 mailto:js...@finchhaven.com (John Sage) > wrote: > > > Then, as to Internet traffic, the probabi

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Woodcock
Thank you for the authoritative answer. I think we can now consider the question closed. -Bill > On Nov 22, 2019, at 03:36, Che-Hoo CHENG wrote: > >  > Some clarifications: > > The 2 HKIX core sites (hosting the spine switches and the major leaf switches > where

RE: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-21 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
On 21 November 2019 23:48:33 CET, "Mahmutovic, Jas" wrote: >Excerpt from http://www.hkix.net/hkix/Presentation/forum20100129.pdf >(Page 3) > > Two Main Sites for resilience > >•HKIX1: CUHK Campus in Shatin >•HKIX2: CITIC Tower in Central > > We are confident to say that because of HKIX, more

RE: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-21 Thread Mahmutovic, Jas
Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of b...@theworld.com Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:06 PM To: John Sage Cc: nanog@nanog.org; b...@theworld.com Subject: Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over? On November 20, 2019 at 15:11 mailto:js...@finchhaven.com (John Sage

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-21 Thread bzs
On November 20, 2019 at 15:11 js...@finchhaven.com (John Sage) wrote: > Then, as to Internet traffic, the probability that 99% of *all* Internet > traffic to one global political entity (Hong Kong) goes through one > single physical location that just happens to be a university currently

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-20 Thread Tom Paseka via NANOG
In terms of bits, MOST Hong Kong traffic does NOT traverse HKIX. However, Hong Kong ISPs, almost entirely communicate with each other of HKIX. Sources like Akamai and Google, however, do not typically traverse HKIX. These are the majority of traffic. 99% of Hong Kong is connected to HKIX, by

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-20 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 04:41:13PM -0500, b...@theworld.com wrote: > Thanks everyone for the replies. My conclusion is that no one here > knows whether HKIX handles 99% of internet traffic for HK or not. Barry, While it's absolutely a number we don't have, it's also worth asking

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-20 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Nov 20, 2019, at 1:41 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > Thanks everyone for the replies. My conclusion is that no one here > knows whether HKIX handles 99% of internet traffic for HK or not. That’s incorrect. I’m here, and I know that: 1) HKIX does not handle anywhere near 99% of Hong

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-20 Thread John Sage
On 11/20/19 1:41 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: Thanks everyone for the replies. My conclusion is that no one here knows whether HKIX handles 99% of internet traffic for HK or not. It's a number. mmm... Since you clearly did *not* read any of the previous replies or chose to ignore them,

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-20 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:41 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the replies. My conclusion is that no one here > knows whether HKIX handles 99% of internet traffic for HK or not. No more than any other site. Most IXPs may have a significant amount of traffic but it’s

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-20 Thread bzs
Thanks everyone for the replies. My conclusion is that no one here knows whether HKIX handles 99% of internet traffic for HK or not. It's a number. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-20 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
On 19 November 2019 22:43:34 CET, b...@theworld.com wrote: > >Is this plausible? > Organic manure -- Pierfrancesco Caci

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-19 Thread Rod Beck
Dude, frankly Zero Hedge is a joke. Facts and respect are as foreign to them as to a certain American President. From: NANOG on behalf of b...@theworld.com Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:43 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: 99% of HK internet traffic goes

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-19 Thread John Sage
On 11/19/19 1:43 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: Is this plausible? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/heres-real-reason-why-hong-kong-authorities-are-desperate-regain-control-university or http://tinyurl.com/slwchx8 uh... Zerohedge has been (at worst) a Russian asset for a good

Re: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-19 Thread Martijn Schmidt via NANOG
. From: NANOG on behalf of b...@theworld.com Sent: 19 November 2019 22:43:34 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: 99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over? Is this plausible? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/heres-real-reason-why-hong-kong-authorities

99% of HK internet traffic goes thru uni being fought over?

2019-11-19 Thread bzs
Is this plausible? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/heres-real-reason-why-hong-kong-authorities-are-desperate-regain-control-university or http://tinyurl.com/slwchx8 -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com