I, for one, would not want to start having to pay RIPE-level fees.
ARIN fees are a much better deal than RIPE fees.
Owen
On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Cb B cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mar 27, 2014 3:03 PM, John Curran jcur...@istaff.org wrote:
And I would welcome discussion of how ARIN
On 27.03.2014, at 22:27, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
...and this is aside from daniel's global measurement empire. not sure it
is a registry's job to do this, but it is a serious contribution to the
internet. ...
there is the 'measurement analysis and tools' working group
Hi Owen,
I, for one, would not want to start having to pay RIPE-level fees.
ARIN fees are a much better deal than RIPE fees.
Only up to Small... The RIPE NCC membership fee is €1750 (±$2400 currently) for
everybody. The ARIN fees are between $500 and $32000, with category Small at
$2000
On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Sander Steffann san...@steffann.nl wrote:
Hi Owen,
I, for one, would not want to start having to pay RIPE-level fees.
ARIN fees are a much better deal than RIPE fees.
Only up to Small... The RIPE NCC membership fee is €1750 (±$2400 currently)
for
Hi Owen,
Compare and contrast the costs of being a PI holding end-user in the RIPE
region to those in the ARIN region and the difference becomes much more
noticeable.
Yeah, RIPE NCC is definitely much cheaper for PI: no initial registration fee
of ≥$500. The maintenance cost is $100/year
On 28/03/2014 14:03, Sander Steffann wrote:
Yeah, RIPE NCC is definitely much cheaper for PI: no initial
registration fee of ≥$500. The maintenance cost is $100/year vs
€100/year (±$137) so there is a little difference there. The $37
€50 per PI assignment from the ripe ncc, no?
On 3/27/14 6:42 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
nanog is a separable game. it is currently very confused between form
and substance, making committees for everything. like the bcop thing.
two organizations, nanog and isoc, forming organizational structures to
create a document store. the
Oops. /me was confused. €50 indeed!
Met vriendelijke groet,
Sander Steffann
Op 28 mrt. 2014 om 15:20 heeft Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org het volgende
geschreven:
On 28/03/2014 14:03, Sander Steffann wrote:
Yeah, RIPE NCC is definitely much cheaper for PI: no initial
registration fee of
Yeah, RIPE NCC is definitely much cheaper for PI: no initial
registration fee of ≥$500. The maintenance cost is $100/year vs
€100/year (±$137) so there is a little difference there. The $37
€50 per PI assignment from the ripe ncc, no?
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-591
guys, you are
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
arin forcing folk to sign
contracts with clauses saying arin can change the TsCs unilaterally and
arbitrarily, ...
Exactly! -- Jay
john,
i think your attemt to move the discussion to the arin ppml list
exemplifies one core of the problem. this is not about address policy,
but arin thinks of itelf as a regulator not a registry.
contrast with the ripe community and the ncc, which is not nirvana but
is a hell of a lot better.
On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
john,
i think your attemt to move the discussion to the arin ppml list
exemplifies one core of the problem.
Randy -
I offered ppml out of respect to the nanog subscribers, that is all...
/John
and this is aside from
And I would welcome discussion of how ARIN (and nanog) can be more like RIPE -
that is very much up to this community and its participation far more than
ARIN..
/John
On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
john,
i think your attemt to move the discussion to the
hi john,
i think your attemt to move the discussion to the arin ppml list
exemplifies one core of the problem.
I offered ppml out of respect to the nanog subscribers, that is all...
i will refrain from characterizing the ppml list. needless to say, i do
not subscribe.
my point is that what
On Mar 27, 2014 3:03 PM, John Curran jcur...@istaff.org wrote:
And I would welcome discussion of how ARIN (and nanog) can be more like
RIPE - that is very much up to this community and its participation far
more than ARIN..
/John
How about we fold ARIN into RIPE? Why not? I agree with all of
nanog is a separable game. it is currently very confused between form
and substance, making committees for everything. like the bcop thing.
two organizations, nanog and isoc, forming organizational structures to
create a document store. the ops' doc store is ripe's because the ripe
wgs produced
On Mar 28, 2014, at 6:04 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
i will refrain from characterizing the ppml list. needless to say, i do
not subscribe.
my point is that what arin does should be of interest to nanog
subscribers. in theory, the ops are the arin community, the registry
serves
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 02:04:30AM +, John Curran wrote:
Internet routing registries are a fine example; one could argue that
it should be integrated with the number resource registry, but we also
have examples of independent routing registries in active use (and I
can see some potential
On Mar 28, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
...
i purposefully phrased it a bit differently, how can arin engage, get
real participation from, and serve its community, the operators. i was
stealing examples from ripe.
but, for concrete action, how about a half day session
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