Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Ian Clark
Thanks for this. I've had physical diversity on my mind lately so this was helpful. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Rod Beck wrote: > > This might of interest to network engineers seeking to ensure their > upstreams are physical diverse. > >

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Rod Beck
Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better paper, please post it. Roderick Beck Sales - Europe and the Americas Hibernia Networks This e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > Thanks for this. I've had physical diversity on my mind lately so this was > helpful. > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Rod Beck > wrote: > >> >> This might of interest to network

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Rod Beck
Undersea is a lot easier since cables pose safety threats. Any fishing organization will have maps of where the undersea cables are located. http://www.kis-orca.eu/map#.VgBHpJdS3IU Roderick Beck Sales - Europe and the Americas Hibernia Networks http://www.hibernianetworks.com This e-mail and

Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Rod Beck
This might of interest to network engineers seeking to ensure their upstreams are physical diverse. http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~pb/tubes_final.pdf Roderick Beck Sales - Europe and the Americas Hibernia Networks http://www.hibernianetworks.com Budapest and New York This e-mail and any

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Rod Beck wrote: > Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the > industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better > paper, please post it. > I don't, which was part of

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Rod Beck wrote: Academics face a severe challenge in gaining access to fiber maps since the industry classifies virtually everything as proprietary. If you know a better paper,

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Robert Mathews (OSIA)
On 9/21/2015 2:31 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: > The ATIS final report on the National Diversity Assurance Iniative is > decent. ATIS had access to proprietary carrier maps and personnel to > check things on the ground. Unfortunately, the NDAI report seems to > have disappeared down the Internet

Re: Academic Paper - ISPs Sharing Long Haul Infrastructure in the USN

2015-09-21 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Sean Donelan wrote: It could be summarized as "Circuit route diversity sucks." The only thing worse than circuit route diversity were the processes to assure diverse circuit orders stayed diverse. No small feat when carriers re-groom circuits and don't bother to tell