Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 6/10/22 17:13, Robert Blayzor via NANOG wrote: Are they "cheap" or is everyone else just "overpriced". ?  Thats the real question. Of course it all comes down what you're willing to pay for it. And almost always, you get what you pay for... or as the case may be, what you don't pay

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-10 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
Depending on what you need, I will point out that Hula has pretty good pricing on Juniper EX4200-48P switches at this time. Last I looked, they were going for $250/ea. Owen > On Jun 10, 2022, at 08:13 , Robert Blayzor via NANOG wrote: > > On 6/9/22 15:07, Saku Ytti wrote: >> They're not

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-10 Thread Robert Blayzor via NANOG
On 6/9/22 15:07, Saku Ytti wrote: They're not really particularly cheap, they are 'market rate', you can get 'market rate' from multiple suppliers, directly from manufacturers too. They are only cheaper than most EU+US resellers, that's about it. Are they "cheap" or is everyone else just

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On 6/9/22 18:41, Drew Weaver wrote: Hello, We had been purchasing some used 48 port 1BaseT switches /w 6x QSFP28 ports for around $3000 until about 2021. In 2021 the aftermarket pricing went from $3,000 each to $15,000 each. Now these particular switches are selling for $20,000 each

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Garrett Skjelstad via NANOG
This is the way. On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 2:38 PM Dave Taht wrote: > I am mostly searching for switches that can have custom firmware on > them. The very long list of those > compatible with SONIC is here: > > https://github.com/Azure/sonic-buildimage/tree/master/device >

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Dave Taht
I am mostly searching for switches that can have custom firmware on them. The very long list of those compatible with SONIC is here: https://github.com/Azure/sonic-buildimage/tree/master/device

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Joelja Bogus
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2022, at 09:44, Drew Weaver wrote: > >  > Hello, > > We had been purchasing some used 48 port 1BaseT switches /w 6x QSFP28 > ports for around $3000 until about 2021. You didn’t specify the chipset or feature / character of these devices, but I would

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Randy Bush
On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:51:57 -0700, Peter Beckman wrote: > > Let us change the focus here to offering some alternatives that people DO > recommend for best value for the dollar, used OR new. quite happy with a few well-used cisco Nexus 3064s we got. one drawback is one can not set mtu per port,

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Peter Beckman
Let us change the focus here to offering some alternatives that people DO recommend for best value for the dollar, used OR new. Beckman, Amateur Internet Referee :-) On Thu, 9 Jun 2022, Saku Ytti wrote: On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 21:59, Eric Kuhnke wrote: With all due respect, without sharing

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 21:59, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > With all due respect, without sharing NDA protected information about the > specific quantity and model numbers of FS switches I have personal experience > with in a certain network, there are very valid reasons to have significant > concerns

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke
With all due respect, without sharing NDA protected information about the specific quantity and model numbers of FS switches I have personal experience with in a certain network, there are very valid reasons to have significant concerns about the stability and feature set of the operating system

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 21:21, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > To paraphrase someone else, I would highly recommend that all my competition > use Fiberstore switches. This is based on direct experience with them. Of course you're not telling anything at all here. I know plenty of very happy fs customers,

Re: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke
To paraphrase someone else, I would highly recommend that all my competition use Fiberstore switches. This is based on direct experience with them. On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 10:03, Rafael Possamai < rafael.possa...@bluebirdnetwork.com> wrote: > This may sound bad at first but look into FS.com if

RE: Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Rafael Possamai
This may sound bad at first but look into FS.com if you're in a pinch. They may not be seen as the typical true enterprise grade (I don't know?) but you can probably buy a a new one and a new spare for the price of one overpriced used switch. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Drew Weaver Sent:

Aftermarket switches that were manufactured in any sort of quantity?

2022-06-09 Thread Drew Weaver
Hello, We had been purchasing some used 48 port 1BaseT switches /w 6x QSFP28 ports for around $3000 until about 2021. In 2021 the aftermarket pricing went from $3,000 each to $15,000 each. Now these particular switches are selling for $20,000 each (and people are still buying them[?]...)