Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-03-20 Thread Saku Ytti
On 20 March 2017 at 18:59, James Bensley wrote: >> Mark is spot on, this is an important point. We just added ORR to SR OS >> 15.0.R1 on the 7x50/VSR. > > Yes, which means we all know what we have do to. Everyone needs to > join in to increase the pressure. When talking to

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-03-20 Thread James Bensley
On 20 March 2017 at 11:03, Greg Hankins wrote: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:35:24PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: >>On 14/Jan/17 00:39, Brandon Ewing wrote: >>> Work is being done to allow RRs to compute metrics from the client's >>> position in the IGP: See >>>

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-03-20 Thread Greg Hankins
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:35:24PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: >On 14/Jan/17 00:39, Brandon Ewing wrote: >> Work is being done to allow RRs to compute metrics from the client's >> position in the IGP: See >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-optimal-route-reflection-13 >> for more

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-03-20 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Same old same. Y. 2017-03-20 11:35 GMT+01:00 Mark Tinka : > > > On 14/Jan/17 00:39, Brandon Ewing wrote: > > > One important thing to remember when migrating from full mesh to a RR > design > > is that you are reducing information available to the routers in the ASN. > >

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-03-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Jan/17 00:39, Brandon Ewing wrote: > One important thing to remember when migrating from full mesh to a RR design > is that you are reducing information available to the routers in the ASN. > When you had a full mesh, each router could select the best path from all > available paths,

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-17 Thread Phil Bedard
: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Brandon Ewing <nicot...@warningg.com> Date: Friday, January 13, 2017 at 17:39 To: Justin Krejci <jkre...@usinternet.com> Cc: <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc On Thu, Jan 12,

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread Randy Bush
> Scaling in this context is simply adding more and more routers and > needing/wanting to avoid configuring full mesh iBGP due to the > administrative burden of maintaining the growing size of full mesh > topology. In one particular network in question, I have 11 routers > fully meshed and need to

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread Brandon Ewing
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 08:32:44PM +, Justin Krejci wrote: > What are the pros and cons of one design over another? On list or private off > list replies would be great; I'd welcome real world experiences (especially > any big gotchas or caveats people learned the hard way) as well as just

RE: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread Justin Krejci
! From: NANOG [nanog-boun...@nanog.org] on behalf of Leo Bicknell [bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:23 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc In a message written on Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 08:32:44PM +

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 08:32:44PM +, Justin Krejci wrote: > I am working on some network designs and am adding some additional routers to > a BGP network. I'd like to build a plan of changing all of the existing > routers over from full iBGP mesh to something more

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread Robert Blayzor
On Jan 12, 2017, at 5:59 PM, James Bensley wrote: > > The CSR1000v (IOS-XE),IOS-XRv and vMX are production ready. People are > deploying these in production and its increasing in popularity. +1 here on the CSR1000v, works very well. However, I’d have to give another +1 to

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread Phil Bedard
for the AFI/SAFIs you are interested in. Phil -Original Message- From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of James Bensley <jwbens...@gmail.com> Date: Friday, January 13, 2017 at 06:04 To: "NANOG ‎[nanog@nanog.org]‎" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re:

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread James Bensley
On 13 January 2017 at 04:02, Hugo Slabbert wrote: > > On Thu 2017-Jan-12 22:59:21 +, James Bensley > wrote: > >> On 12 January 2017 at 20:32, Justin Krejci wrote: >>> >>> . I have not found many resources discussing using a

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread Chris Russell
The CSR1000v (IOS-XE),IOS-XRv and vMX are production ready. People are deploying these in production and its increasing in popularity. Mark Tinka gave a good preso at a recent Nanog: https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/2_Tinka_21st_Century_iBGP_Route_Reflection.pdf

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-12 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Thu 2017-Jan-12 22:59:21 +, James Bensley wrote: On 12 January 2017 at 20:32, Justin Krejci wrote: . I have not found many resources discussing using a non-router box as a route reflector (ie a device not necessarily in the forwarding

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-12 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Dear Justin, You could take a look at this presentation from Mark Tinka during last NANOG : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wLEjOj2fyp8 HTH. Y. > Le 12 janv. 2017 à 23:41, Łukasz Bromirski a écrit : > > >> On 12 Jan 2017, at 21:32, Justin Krejci

RE: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-12 Thread James Breeden
-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:33 PM To: NANOG ‎[nanog@nanog.org]‎ <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc Nanog, I am working on some network designs and am adding some additional routers to a BGP networ

RE: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-12 Thread Emille Blanc
BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc Nanog, I am working on some network designs and am adding some additional routers to a BGP network. I'd like to build a plan of changing all of the existing routers over from full iBGP mesh to something more scalable (ie route reflection). Fortunat

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-12 Thread James Bensley
On 12 January 2017 at 20:32, Justin Krejci wrote: > . I have not found many resources discussing using a non-router box as a > route reflector (ie a device not necessarily in the forwarding path of the > through traffic). I am thinking things like OpenBGPd and BIRD could

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-12 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: "Łukasz Bromirski" <luk...@bromirski.net> To: "Justin Krejci" <jkre...@usinternet.com> Cc: "NANOG ‎[nanog@nanog.org]‎" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41:20 PM Subject: Re: BGP Route Refl

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-12 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
> On 12 Jan 2017, at 21:32, Justin Krejci wrote: > > Nanog, > […] You did some homework. In essence, there’s no immediate problem with running Quagga or OpenBGPd as RR apart from lack of different knobs and not-so-stellar performance/scalability. BIRD is grounds up

BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-12 Thread Justin Krejci
Nanog, I am working on some network designs and am adding some additional routers to a BGP network. I'd like to build a plan of changing all of the existing routers over from full iBGP mesh to something more scalable (ie route reflection). Fortunately, I am also going to be able to