Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-19 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 05/12/2010 02:41 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- da...@tcb.net wrote: From: Danny McPherson On May > 12, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Jay Nakamura wrote: > >> I just tested this and, yes, with Cisco to Cisco, changing the >> setting won't reset the connection but you have to reset the >> connection

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-14 Thread shake righa
ssage- >> From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:35 PM >> To: NANOG >> Subject: BGP and convergence time >> >> So, we have two upstreams, both coming in on Ethernet. One of our >> switch crashed and rebooted its

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-14 Thread shake righa
; http://blog.ioshints.info/2008/01/ospf-default-route-based-on-ip-sla.html > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:35 PM > To: NANOG > Subject: BGP and convergence time > > So, we have two u

RE: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-13 Thread Frank Bulk
What about IP SLA with some EEM? This link may give you some ideas: http://blog.ioshints.info/2008/01/ospf-default-route-based-on-ip-sla.html Frank -Original Message- From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:35 PM To: NANOG Subject: BGP and

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 09:52:48AM -0600, Danny McPherson wrote: > > The holdtime isn't technically negotiated, both sides convey their > value in the open message and the lower of the two is used by both BGP > speakers. IIRC, neither J or C reset the session with the timer > change, but the new

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Scott Weeks
--- matt...@walster.org wrote: From: Matthew Walster On 12 May 2010 02:36, Scott Weeks wrote: > You set the timers on your side and the two sides negotiate then select the > lowest timer settings. The BGP session automatically hard resets on some > equipment when changing the timers, so be

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Scott Weeks
--- da...@tcb.net wrote: From: Danny McPherson On May 12, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Jay Nakamura wrote: > I just tested this and, yes, with Cisco to Cisco, changing the setting > won't reset the connection but you have to reset the connection to > have the value take effect. I need to look up what hap

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Danny McPherson
On May 12, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Jay Nakamura wrote: > > I just tested this and, yes, with Cisco to Cisco, changing the setting > won't reset the connection but you have to reset the connection to > have the value take effect. I need to look up what happens when two > sides are set to different val

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Jay Nakamura
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 12 May 2010 02:36, Scott Weeks wrote: >> You set the timers on your side and the two sides negotiate then select the >> lowest timer settings.  The BGP session automatically hard resets on some >> equipment when changing the timers,

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Matthew Walster
On 12 May 2010 02:36, Scott Weeks wrote: > You set the timers on your side and the two sides negotiate then select the > lowest timer settings.  The BGP session automatically hard resets on some > equipment when changing the timers, so be aware of that. Hold timers are negotiated in the OPEN me

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:31:51PM -0400, Jay Nakamura wrote: > Yes, I understand BFD. The question is, do carriers usually do BFD > with customers? And if they say no, are there other remedies? AT&T > doesn't seem to be even willing to change BGP timers. If anyone have > been able to talk AT&T

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Scott Weeks
--- zeusda...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jay Nakamura AT&T doesn't seem to be even willing to change BGP timers. If anyone have been able to talk AT&T or Qwest in doing so, it would really help to You set the timers on your side and the two sides negoti

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Jay Nakamura
Yes, I understand BFD. The question is, do carriers usually do BFD with customers? And if they say no, are there other remedies? AT&T doesn't seem to be even willing to change BGP timers. If anyone have been able to talk AT&T or Qwest in doing so, it would really help to find out how they convi

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Randy Bush
> I am looking for ways to detect neighbor being down faster so traffic > can be re-routed faster. BFD

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/11/2010 11:35, Jay Nakamura wrote: > So, we have two upstreams, both coming in on Ethernet. One of our > switch crashed and rebooted itself. Although we have other paths to > egress out the network, because the router's Ethernet interface didn't > go down, our router's BGP didn't realize the

BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Jay Nakamura
So, we have two upstreams, both coming in on Ethernet. One of our switch crashed and rebooted itself. Although we have other paths to egress out the network, because the router's Ethernet interface didn't go down, our router's BGP didn't realize the neighbor was down until default BGP timeout was