Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-09-02 Thread Edward Dore
The Linux Kernel itself may be GPL (which I wasn't debating), however I see no reason why MikroTik's MPLS stack couldn't work in a similar way to the closed source NVidia driers where my understanding is that a GPL stub loads a binary blob. Have you asked MikroTik for a copy of the source?

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-09-01 Thread Bjørn Mork
Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us writes: What's the state of MPLS on Linux these days? There was some renewed interest recently (i.e. last year). See the discussion starting at http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg180282.html But do note davem's replies in

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-09-01 Thread Bjørn Mork
Edward Dore edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk writes: They used to publish the source for their 2.4 kernel on routerboard.com (in fact, it's still available at http://routerboard.com/files/linux-2.4.31.zip), but I've not seen anything for the 2.6 kernel however and the routerboard.com

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-31 Thread Laurent GUERBY
@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012 2:00:52 AM Subject: Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited I'm fairly sure that Mikrotik software is based on linux, and supports MPLS. Not too sure which package they use, or if they rolled their own MPLS support... - Original Message - From

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-31 Thread Dan Shechter
@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012 2:00:52 AM Subject: Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited I'm fairly sure that Mikrotik software is based on linux, and supports MPLS. Not too sure which package they use, or if they rolled their own MPLS support... - Original Message

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-31 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
recently however. Edward Dore Freethought Internet - Original Message - From: Walter Keen walter.k...@rainierconnect.net To: Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012 2:00:52 AM Subject: Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-31 Thread Edward Dore
, August 28, 2012 4:42:14 PM Subject: Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited What's the state of MPLS on Linux these days? ~Seth

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-29 Thread Edward J. Dore
- Original Message - From: Walter Keen walter.k...@rainierconnect.net To: Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012 2:00:52 AM Subject: Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited I'm fairly sure that Mikrotik software is based on linux, and supports MPLS. Not too sure

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-29 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012 2:00:52 AM Subject: Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited I'm fairly sure that Mikrotik software is based on linux, and supports MPLS. Not too sure which package they use, or if they rolled their own MPLS support... - Original Message - From: Seth

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-28 Thread David Lamparter
Personally I would like to see more work on all three opensource implementations, i.e. BIRD, OpenBGPd and Quagga. http://opensourcerouting.org/ to the rescue? Hi, I'm David Lamparter, employed at the OpenSourceRouting (OSR) project to maintain Quagga. I can tell you that the OSR's interest

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
What's the state of MPLS on Linux these days? ~Seth

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-28 Thread Walter Keen
Subject: Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited What's the state of MPLS on Linux these days? ~Seth

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-24 Thread Thomas Mangin
Fell free to contact me if you have any questions about ExaBGP as I am painfully aware it's documentation is nowhere near what it should be. Thomas Sent from my iPad On 23 Aug 2012, at 08:52, Andy Davidson a...@nosignal.org wrote: On 22 Aug 2012, at 18:42, David Hubbard

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited (MP-BGP RR)

2012-08-24 Thread Thomas Mangin
On 23 Aug 2012, at 15:04, Raymond Burkholder r...@oneunified.net wrote: To expand the opinion set, how do Quagga, Bird, exaBGP, OpenBGPd hold up for handling Multi-Protocol BGP Route Reflector duties in a BGP/MPLS environment for a smaller ISP? I am using BIRD as a RR between a busy VRF and

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-24 Thread Ray Soucy
Don't forget about XORP if you have any need for multicast routing ... On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il wrote: Sorry to disrupt the bad cabling thread, but I'd like to revisit a thread from 2 years ago. I have read over the NANOG presentations:

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM, David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote: Of those who have used Quagga or Bird, or anything else, would either of them be appropriate and/or well suited for use as an iBGP blackhole route server? We currently do blackholes via manual config on one of

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-23 Thread Andy Davidson
On 22 Aug 2012, at 18:42, David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote: Of those who have used Quagga or Bird, or anything else, would either of them be appropriate and/or well suited for use as an iBGP blackhole route server? You can use Quagga or Bird as a blackhole BGP injector,

RE: Bird vs Quagga revisited (MP-BGP RR)

2012-08-23 Thread Raymond Burkholder
Of those who have used Quagga or Bird, or anything else, would either of them be appropriate and/or well suited for use as an iBGP blackhole route server? To expand the opinion set, how do Quagga, Bird, exaBGP, OpenBGPd hold up for handling Multi-Protocol BGP Route Reflector duties in a

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-22 Thread Andy Davidson
On 22/08/12 06:19, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Sorry to disrupt the bad cabling thread, but I'd like to revisit a thread from 2 years ago. I have read over the NANOG presentations: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog48/presentations/Monday/Jasinska_RouteServer_N48.pdf

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-22 Thread John Souter
On 22/08/12 06:19, Hank Nussbacher wrote: ...Any feedback appreciated. I can't speak too highly of BIRD. Our use case is probably not completely typical, but our multilateral peering route servers have been hugely improved by switching to BIRD. Our two primary route servers, one for each LINX

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-22 Thread Guillaume Barrot
Hello, I came across this site a few weeks ago http://code.google.com/p/google-quagga/source/list Seems that Google (or at least some Googlers) are working on quagga, or worked as the last update is tagged July 2011. Main difference I see between Quagga and Bird, is that it is now possible to

RE: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-22 Thread David Hubbard
Of those who have used Quagga or Bird, or anything else, would either of them be appropriate and/or well suited for use as an iBGP blackhole route server? We currently do blackholes via manual config on one of our real routers but are wanting to add a software-based (on linux) system where we

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-22 Thread Andrew Latham
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM, David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote: Of those who have used Quagga or Bird, or anything else, would either of them be appropriate and/or well suited for use as an iBGP blackhole route server? We currently do blackholes via manual config on one of

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-22 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 22.08.2012 11:22, John Souter wrote: On 22/08/12 06:19, Hank Nussbacher wrote: ...Any feedback appreciated. I can't speak too highly of BIRD. Our use case is probably not completely typical, but our multilateral peering route servers have been hugely improved by switching to BIRD. Our

Re: Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-22 Thread Christian Esteve Rothenberg
Personally I would like to see more work on all three opensource implementations, i.e. BIRD, OpenBGPd and Quagga. http://opensourcerouting.org/ to the rescue? -- Christian Esteve Rothenberg, Ph.D. Converged Networks Business Unit CPqD - Center for Research and Development in

Bird vs Quagga revisited

2012-08-21 Thread Hank Nussbacher
Sorry to disrupt the bad cabling thread, but I'd like to revisit a thread from 2 years ago. I have read over the NANOG presentations: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog48/presentations/Monday/Jasinska_RouteServer_N48.pdf