Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 1:08:17 PM Subject: Re: Canada joins the 21st century ! W

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-24 Thread Baldur Norddahl
We have customers with 150/30 Mbps service on DSL and next year we will get 300 Mbps. We are just renting access, it is the ILEC that decided to make a large roll out with vectoring, pair bonding and VDSL2 annex 35b. I would say that the majority around here can get at least 50/10 from DSL.

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-24 Thread Joe Loiacono
+1 Joe Loiacono From: Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> To: Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Date: 12/23/2016 08:20 AM Subject: Re: Canada joins the 21st century ! Sent by:"NANOG" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> The government getting involved with the Internet rare

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Mike Hammett
- From: "Rod Beck" <rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:20:18 PM Subject: Re: Canada joins the 21st century ! Thousands of ISPs that collectively add up to a pimple on

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Rod Beck
broadband penetration rates using other approaches. From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:58 PM Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Canada joins the 21st century

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Canada should just have Comcast (or is it "Xfinity"?) provided nation-wide Internet service as a for-profit monopoly. Just as long as we have *someone* to Telus whom to chose.

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "John Sage" <js...@finchhaven.com> To: Nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:23:26 AM Subject: Re: Canada joins the 21st century ! On 12/23/2016 05:18 AM, Mi

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread John Sage
On 12/23/2016 05:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The government getting involved with the Internet rarely goes well. The FCC is a shining example of how to usually do it wrong. I agree. To hell with 'government'. What has it done for you lately, anyway? Canada should just have Comcast (or is it

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2016-12-23 10:37, Seth Mattinen wrote: > It would certainly suck to be an ISP in Canada and be forced to fund > your competitors. Or does Canada not have any small privately run ISPs > like we do in the US? We not only have smaller ISPs, but also a wholesale framework where ISPs can

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/22/16 6:59 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: Nothing happens for now because a "follow up" process is needed to decide how the funding mechanism will work (what portions of a companies revenues are counted to calculated its mandated contribution to fund) and how the process of bidding for

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
To: Nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:59:22 AM > Subject: Canada joins the 21st century ! > > This is more of an FYI. > > Yesterday, the CRTC released a big decision on broadband. In 2011, the > same process resulted in CRTC to not declare the Internet as &qu

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Mezei" <jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> To: Nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:59:22 AM Subject: Canada joins the 21st century ! This is more of an FYI. Yesterday, the CRTC released a big decision on broadband. In 2011, the same process resulted in CRTC to not decl

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-22 Thread Blake Hudson
Jean-Francois Mezei wrote on 12/22/2016 8:59 AM: ... Yesterday, the CRTC declared the Internet to be a basic service (which enables additional regulatory powers) and set speed goals to 50/10. Note that this is not a definition of broadband as the FCC had done, it one of many criteria that will

Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-22 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
This is more of an FYI. Yesterday, the CRTC released a big decision on broadband. In 2011, the same process resulted in CRTC to not declare the Internet as "basic service" and to set speed goals to 1990s 5/1. Yesterday, the CRTC declared the Internet to be a basic service (which enables