Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Feb/16 16:46, Saku Ytti wrote: > If I could get classicIOS with commit and RPL, I'd run that rather > than XR right now. +1. Mark.

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Feb/16 15:59, Josh Reynolds wrote: > With GRES, can't you simply set the master RE as backup, apply firmware, > then switch back to master and upgrade the backup RE? Not always. Multicast, for example, tends to not survive upgrades in GRES conditions as a matter of protocol. Mark.

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Feb/16 15:55, Jason Bothe wrote: > We have both and they’re both great boxes, however it’s sort of embarrassing > that the ASR9k still can’t do virtualized routing, ie. logical-systems. Not > sure if thats a deal breaker for you but just thought you’d like to beware. > We also find

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Feb/16 15:45, Colton Conor wrote: > I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms if > possible. > > I was going to buy a used Juniper MX960 Router MX960-PREMIUM2-AC-ECM with > 2 x RE-S-1800X4-16G and 3 x SCBE-MX-S. Then I was going to load this up > with a couple

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread David Bass
I don't think I'd trust any vendor's "ISSU" to be completely without impact...been more of a marketing term from my experience... > On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Jason Bothe wrote: >> The 9k does however get a huge win with the ability to apply a

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > In other words, "hitless" does not mean "not service impacting". I would assume any SMU impacts traffic and requires a reboot or a line card reset. There are types of SMUs that touch low level parts and require a

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread Nick Hilliard
Jason Bothe wrote: > The 9k does however get a huge win with the ability to apply a ‘pie’ > or software patch while staying in service vs requiring a reload. SMUs are often "hitless", which is to say, "hitless" with scary quotes. What this means in practice is that the SMU itself might be

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread Saku Ytti
On 18 February 2016 at 15:45, Colton Conor wrote: Hey, > I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms if > possible. Summary, I think MX is better HW and SW right now. Warning, rant incoming. I liked ASR9k lot more before I needed to

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yeah, you might look into that. We're about to put 3 x MX960s in service and with GRES and NSR we are not dropping traffic when taking the master RE down. On Feb 18, 2016 8:05 AM, "Jason Bothe" wrote: > We have run into issues with GRES, and I think its an issue with the RE we >

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread Jason Bothe
We have run into issues with GRES, and I think its an issue with the RE we have. I don’t actually perform the tasks so it may or may not be as big of an issue as I initially stated. Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking Rice University o +1 713 348 5500

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
With GRES, can't you simply set the master RE as backup, apply firmware, then switch back to master and upgrade the backup RE? On Feb 18, 2016 7:57 AM, "Jason Bothe" wrote: > We have both and they’re both great boxes, however it’s sort of > embarrassing that the ASR9k still can’t

Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread Jason Bothe
We have both and they’re both great boxes, however it’s sort of embarrassing that the ASR9k still can’t do virtualized routing, ie. logical-systems. Not sure if thats a deal breaker for you but just thought you’d like to beware. We also find OS configurations on the Juniper much easier than

Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

2016-02-18 Thread Colton Conor
I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms if possible. I was going to buy a used Juniper MX960 Router MX960-PREMIUM2-AC-ECM with 2 x RE-S-1800X4-16G and 3 x SCBE-MX-S. Then I was going to load this up with a couple of older DPCE-R-4XGE-XFP 4x10GE DPC Enhanced cards.